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Romy the Cat


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Bruckner 4 in RAH
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Attended today Bruckner 4 with Oslo Philarmonic under Petrenko. Petrenko for sure looks great but in Tchikovsky kind of level, to conduct Brucker it is a bit too early for him. Amy said that everyone need to start sometimes, perhaps she is right but I am less forgiving. The Olso Philarmonic did not sound interesting at all and the B4 had no potency it migh have otherwise. We had much better sits this time, if anything migh be consider good sits in that shity hall.

Amy become quite bold after concert. She looked truly spectacular, I behaved accordingly, and it made her to have special memory about the concert. So, knowing that I would not want to have this concert recording she sent email to my UK guys under my name that she want to have this recording as her special memories. What a bad kitty!!! I was forced to intoksicate  her in local Gergian restorant as her senses of behavoral appropriateness were blinded by today shining of her own beauty. Anyhow, to keep peace and tranquility in the family I need to find for her the recording of the last night Bruckner 4 despite that the performers was "not keeper".

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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Bruckner 8
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Please, please, please, the British folks, make sure that you have download, record or whatever you do the last night Bruckner 8 performance. Leave the hornblende Bach plaing in the first part alone and preserve that Brucker. Lorin Maazel is gineus and the interpretation that interpretation that he showed last night was each high magnitude that it instantly in my mind elevated him to the most able Brucker conductors alave.  Discard occasional bad play of VPO. The performance last nitght was much much deeper in the meaning. Lucky we who were there as it was truly life time opportunity to hear Bruckner 8 as it was. Lorin Maazel must  to take Viana Philarmonic  to one of those German churches and to live to as a recording.

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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guy sergeant
United Kingdom
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Recordings
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I now have the 7th & 8th but I didn't get the 4th & don't know how to save it from the BBC website. I expect they'll broadcast it again but I don't know when. If Decoud can grab that one you'll have all 3.

The 8th was impressive.
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decoud
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Obtaining bbc iplayer recordings
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Here is a guide for how to do it (mostly with success). 1. Acquire a UK IP address. 2. install "get_iplayer". 3. Find the PID for the BBC iplayer recording of interest by navigating to it within iplayer and reading off the alphanumeric code in the url. 4. Type the following into a command shell: get_iplayer --type=radio --pid xxxxxxxx where the last term is the pid number.
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guy sergeant
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Saving a BBC proramme
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Beyond my skills I'm afraid. I've set my son onto it but if you could do it it would help!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/b039c6wn
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Romy the Cat


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Help to fight for best version.
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While I am in UK, have UK’s IP as am trying to use your instruction to get the Bruckner 8 from Proms. We are somewhere at the Scotland border, it is 4AM in the morning and for the last 2 hours I was trying to follow your instructions but all my efforts are unsuccessful. I fully admit my idiocy in that but I do not want to admit that I lost my chance to have that Bruckner 8. So, please, do download it and do make sure that this performance is preserved.

Now, how to get the best quality of this Bruckner 8? I do not know what download options are available. As I understand it is .m4a stream but I do not know how low digital compression it is as not of the players I know can play it and I do not want to convert it. Also what BBC broadcasts it then do they play the digitally uncompressed files? Please somebody do look into is as I VERY much would like to have this  Bruckner 8 in highest quality format available, with less conversion possible.  As I get back to US I will find a way to upload it.

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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guy sergeant
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No.8
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I have this No.8 recorded from the FM transmission at 16/44 so I can transfer that. My son figured out how to acquire the 320 mp3 version of No4 yesterday although he did imply there was also a WMA version he could get which might be better. I'll ask him to try to get them both. (The FM recordings sound pretty good though).
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Romy the Cat


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Get better and better....
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Well, as I understand the iPlayer version is M4A files, which is low-loss compression of audio part of MPEG-4 video. It would be interesting to get uncompressed (I mean digitally uncompressed file). I also do not know that bits rate in that M4A compression, the one that I see is 128k. I presume that BBS wham they broadest FM they do not compress their stream, so it would be interning to hear Guy’s recording. For sure it will have dynamic compression but it might be (or might not be) better then digital compression. Guy, can you upload your file to some kind of free file sharing service, like http://www.mediafire.com?

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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decoud
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Iplayer options
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As far as get_iplayer sees, there are three options flash standard (aac), flash low (presumably low quality aac), and wma 1. The options are set by adding a --types=x flag. All are lossy, so Guy's FM version may well be better.
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guy sergeant
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Another sharing platform
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I'm having difficulty uploading to mediafire this morning so here's a minute of the Bruckner 8 (from FM) uploaded to Filesnack.

http://snk.to/f-ch5y7sam
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Romy the Cat


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Bye-bye England
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We left England, talking a long route to Scotland across Cambridge, York  and all the way north to Loch Ness. Love England and absolutely fall in love with London. The last few days we spent in London did explained to me why Amy consider London the best city in the world. From now I am sure we will be a frequent visitors in London. I have no option to deal with all files now as I deal with iPad - a freaky machine that I am not tuned with. Will be back in the end of the week and get the B8 files.

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"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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The last day.
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We are departing today from Edinburgh after 3 days ride over Scotland Highland and the island of Skye. Looking back to the 14 days I would say that among many very interesting new sensations that we consumed there was nothing to me as strong as to hear for the first time the RSC  production of Hamlet. What comes to me is that if you look how Jonathan Slinger delivers the Hamlet's lines and his he accents the prefixes and endings of the words then you can see some eerie similarity with the way how Glen Gould played Bach, when he virtually converted piano notes  into harpsichord-like actions. Take a listen yourself and imagine that  Royal Shakespeare Company delivered 3 hours of like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0o36T3sZI

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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manisandher
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Safe trip
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
We are departing today from Edinburgh after 3 days ride over Scotland Highland and the island of Skye. Looking back to the 14 days I would say that among many very interesting new sensations that we consumed there was nothing to me as strong as to hear for the first time the RSC  production of Hamlet.
Romy, as a Brit, I'm glad you and Amy had a good time in the UK. I live in Leamington Spa, a stone's throw from Stratford-upon-Avon, and will be going to see Hamlet myself, along with my wife, next week. Thanks for the 'review'.
(I would have happily invited you both to our house during your travels, but didn't think you'd be interested in hearing my setup... or my taste in music.)
Mani.
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Romy the Cat


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The Scotland land: what a woman!
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I was not “getting” the Scotland unit today, just before Amy fed me 25 years old, cask-strength Laphroaig. Then she packed baggage with Cohibas that she “bought for herself” and issued 5 vouchers for listening chair in-house smoking. I am telling you that after this Laphroaig with local Edinburg cheeses I was so close to pull my trousers off, grab Scotland skirt and to run to nearby store to buy that ridicules bag-pipe….

Posted from airport.  Tomorrow it will be another day in office…. 
 

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"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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JJ Triode
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Scots terminolgy
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Romy, the world is kilt.  Not skirt. Kilt.  The Scots will turn YOU into a haggis if they catch you mixing that up.

Seriously, It's nice you posted a picture with Amy.  Now when you mention her we'll have an image to go with the name.

You mentioned bagpipes--do you think any bagpipe or other Celtic music can be of serious interest?  I don't necessarily mean audio interest, but music/cultural interest.

Regds

JJ
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Romy the Cat


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Scotland and Music
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 JJ Triode wrote:
You mentioned bagpipes--do you think any bagpipe or other Celtic music can be of serious interest?  I don't necessarily mean audio interest, but music/cultural interest.
JJ, I have no idea. Amy loves bagpipes and she actively solicited ways to hear them. We did not catch any good bagpipes play during out trip and as little as we heard bagpipes during the trip was very bad playing. I am less optimistic in my love of bagpipes and with very little exception I find them annoying.  The little exception comes from very idiosyncratic nasal tone and very creative playing – I heard it a few times well done here in US.
About Celtic music and bagpipes having “serious” interest?  I do not find it to be interesting but I can only relate to myself and in this connotation I substitute “serious” with “personal”. I very much presume that if a person has some rooting and some familiarity with Celtic culture then she or he might find own “serious” in Celtic music. I personally do not but it means very little for those who do.

I have to admit that Scotland scenery are not very much suitable for the music we played. We blasted at full volume Mahler Resurrection riding over the mounts of Isle of Skye. It was interning but it was clear disassociation of viewable and auditable in my view. It was much better when we switch to Bruckner and were crossing the Glen Coe valley. We hit the valley at sunset as the Sun was just bursting right across the valley, lighting up the mounts like candles. It was “better” but it was not the perfect match as Scotland just pretty to the contrast of Bruckner that in my view requires more monumental and more colossal scenery. Mendelssohn composed his 3rd Symphony and Hebrides overture that probably would be the right music for the surrounding.

I need to admit that I was not a fully tuned to any music as my years were constantly pierced by Amy’s screaming. She was sitting at the dangers side of the car (British driving) and I drove in some cases like a maniac – so we had more “the conversations” then actually we listened music... :-) She is very impressible driver, like all women are but she has something that saves her sweet ass – she is a phenomenal navigator. She has some “things” with maps and with knowing where the things are located. Very freaky at first but very useable…

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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rickmcinnis
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Amy is lovely and so is London
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Glad to hear you had a great time and agree with the previous post, it is good to get a glimpse of Amy.
Hope the trip home is uneventful.
Take care,
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Romy the Cat


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Loch Ness pleasure….
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I did my very best to disguise myself as I am a local Scottish fellow. I bought a ridicules hat and smoked only British tobacco but I guess it was not enough. We spend a phenomenally pleasant nigh in a desolate but remarkably cute hotel on a bank of Loch Ness Lake. Now I understand why Any complained that in New England no one make those sticky puddings as they do in Brittan islands. Amyhow, here is the picture of me at Loch Ness that Amy took.

LochNessMe.jpg



"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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The Avatar syndrome.
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Here it came. During the last 14 days we woke up each morning in the different cities, discovered new cathedrals and castles, saw wonderful made of nature and phenomenal examples architecture and human ingenuity.  We saw Mousetrap, The Privet Lives, A Doll's House, Hamlet and one part of Henry VI, we drunk great wine and eat stimulating food. Now I am back to home and I stimulate myself with ability to park my lawn mower in reverse into the shad, with skills to pick a fresh bagel in Dunkin Donald and with advance techniques to tolerate the idiot boss at work. The Avatar syndrome indeed...

A friend of my told me that if you want to keep my life “colorful” then I need to use a lot of drags. Well, I do not know how about that. With all seriousness, I do not find that my normal life home is boring and I like how I live. Still, I wonder if any way how to have the mundane and dally routine that were all are burdened with as stimulating and as inspiring as the best day of our vacation? That is kind of existential question and not particularly something that requires answers. Just sharing….

The Cat

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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decoud
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Geocoincidence
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There are two cities on earth where luxuriant variety -- along most dimensions of life -- is concentrated in one place, so any vacation is never more than a mile away. You just need to move to one of them...
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rogier
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Back from vacation...
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There is an old saying collect memories , not stuff.
Tomorrow i visit my parents-in-law in Armenia and coming time will see me roaming the beautiful landscape and visiting the many music-venues in Yerevan but it's only for this 4 weeks, the rest of the year we'll have to do it with the memory of what we've done in that short time(and watch pics and vids and listen CD's bought).
Vacation should always be in your mind...

rogier
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Romy the Cat


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What a play!!!
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
Please, please, please, the British folks, make sure that you have download, record or whatever you do the last night Bruckner 8 performance. Leave the hornblende Bach plaing in the first part alone and preserve that Brucker. Lorin Maazel is gineus and the interpretation that interpretation that he showed last night was each high magnitude that it instantly in my mind elevated him to the most able Brucker conductors alave.  Discard occasional bad play of VPO. The performance last nitght was much much deeper in the meaning. Lucky we who were there as it was truly life time opportunity to hear Bruckner 8 as it was. Lorin Maazel must  to take Viana Philarmonic  to one of those German churches and to live to as a recording.

I was listening yesterday and today the Lorin Maazel performance of Bruckner 8 from the Proms two weeks ago. I was listening it again and the more I am listening the more I am shocked how stunning smart Maazel plays Bruckner. Do not run in a store and buy Maazel’s Bruckner. Whatever he did with Bruckner before was not good. During the proms it was a complete transformation and listening the recording I have no idea where from all that phenomenal brilliance came to Lorin Maazel.

Vienna Philharmonic did not good job at all, particularly during the first two movements. Perhaps after Musikverein they sat in the horrible Royal Albert Hall and were not able to hear each other. I do not know what was going on with them. If they play well, as they perfectly able to play then this performance from the Proms would be literally the panicle immortal performance, entering the realm of Matacic 7 or Giulini 9.  The bad play of Vienna will be most likely an assurance that the recording of the event never will be released – an incredible shame as I would very much would like to have it.
Again, me greatest compliment to Lorin Maazel – what a play!!!

The Cat

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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cv
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The VPO/Maazel at the Albert Hall...
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I can well imagine the heat in the hall was making them a bit drowsy - and perhaps their touring schedule - of which, as far as performances of the Eighth go:


Sat, 7. September 2013
Redefin, Germany
Landgestüt Redefin, Reithalle Gestüt Redefin

Wed, 11. September 2013
Paris, France
Théatre des Champs-Elysées

Sat, 14. September 2013
Lucerne, Switzerland
Lucerne Culture and Congress Centre

Thu, 19. September 2013
Vienna, Austria
Musikverein, Golden Hall

Tue, 24. September 2013
Linz, Austria
Brucknerhaus Linz, Large Hall
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Romy the Cat


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VPO at the Albert Hall
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It is hard to say what happened to them. Earlier this year we heard them in Carnegie Hall with Bruckner 5 and they demonstrated pretty much the same play. It is kind of interesting as they do have an amassing class of playing. Not by reputation but by the actual playing and it is very clear might be heard during the event at Albert Hall. Some very complex things they did very extremely complicated and extremely beautifully, at the same time then sometimes, and particularly at the beginning were failing some very simplistic things.

Still, so not let my criticism of a few VPO members to destruct you from a truly stunning performance. With all problems that VPO demonstrated you will need to go over 100s of performances of Bruckner 8 and you would hardly ever come across as beautiful as the one from Albert Hall 2 weeks back. The VPO bloopers are occasional, mostly at beginning and no uglier than any other mid-town orchestra playing live. You will very soon forget it. The core of VPO sound is still very much there and a full blow of VPO, lash, unhurried, orgasmaticly gradual and painfully tonal still will blow your mind with this music.  I wish everyone who read this site listen this Albert Hall performance for a few times. THIS music in THIS interpretation is as high-end listening as it could be.

The Cat

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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From Lorin Maazel personal blog.
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The Six Thousand-Strong Roar Sep 8, 2013 - Royal Albert Hall 
 
Phenomenal...utterly, totally, unimaginably phenomenal:
the awesome audience response at the Royal Albert Hall
at the conclusion of the Vienna Philharmonic's performance
on September 6 of Austria's Mother's Milk:
Anton Bruckner's Eighth Symphony.
In my over sixty years of conducting concerts...including some at the Proms....I have never
experienced such a joyous, roaring ring
coming from the throats of six-thousand enthralled humans,
erupting just as the sound of the last note became history.
Yes, we had given our all.
Yes, the VPO's Wagner tubas made sounds to die.
Yes, the VPO strings made their mark yet again.
Yes, I was especially "with it".
Yes, the 1890 version of Bruckner's Eight won the day.
But to witness in our time to what degree a knowledgeable, young,
mostly standing group of music-lovers can become part of a
Trip Second to None,
reinforces my belief that Classical Music in today's discordant world
has an increasingly relevant role to play.

- Lorin Maazel

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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