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guy sergeant
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Download
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If anyone wants to hear this performance (recorded from FM) the download links are below.

1st Movement

http://snk.to/f-c7jiw9mh

2nd Movement

http://snk.to/f-c7j5w9mh

3rd Movement Pt1

http://snk.to/f-ch9sb58p

3rd Movement Pt2

http://snk.to/f-c7ui2j9t

4th Movement Pt1

http://snk.to/f-chm0rflj

4th Movement Pt2

http://snk.to/f-c7c9epnx

(I had to split the 3rd & 4th Movements at suitable silent moments as the files were too large otherwise)


EDIT. I've now changed the link for the 1st Mov't as I'd put the wrong one up.
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Romy the Cat


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Do download and Do listen
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I appreciate that Guy made the FM recording available. If you listen the Guy’s files then make sure that you combine the files before listening as to interrupt Bruckner movements is sacrilegious. The whole Bruckner presentation come as one longer meditative and highly continues journey, there is absolutely room in there from switching the files.

Below is a link of all 4 movements with announcer. This is not FM copy but 128Bit MP3 file, so kindly made by decoud, decoud I am sure you do not mind.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7lbzwj3h5uhmj1w

BTW, Guy I do not know what you did with the files but the copy you offered while I was in UK and that one that I downloaded was substantially worse than the one that you have above. If they are the same files then I have no idea why as the former file had much higher compression and a lot of noise.

Anyhow, with all technical mambo-jumbo aside do download the version you like as have an amassing rude over the  Bruckner’s mountains and valleys.  In the Maazel’s hands it is truly wonderful.

The Cat

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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guy sergeant
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Difference
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That's interesting. The versions I sent you were the continuous uninterrupted recordings as burnt to two separate CD's, ie one for Mov'ts 1&2 and the other for Mov'ts 3&4. But they were sent via a different file sharing system (wetransfer.com). That required them to be uploaded to their server & the links sent to you. But the above is via a more conventional public file sharing system. It does have a 200MB filesize limit so I needed to split 3 & 4. I've no idea why they should be different in terms of noise/sound quality though.  I should post you the two original discs!
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JJ Triode
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Guy's upload from FM
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I want to thank Romy for recommending this performance and Guy for his fine FM-to-CD recording and upload.  I have to say, though, that I encountered some problems when I downloaded the 3rd movement files.  In part 1 of the 3rd movement, all sound cuts off abruptly at about 9:16 minutes into the track, despite that it is nominally some 18 minutes long.  At the end of the 3rd movement, part 2, the sound cuts off a few seconds too early, when the final few chords are still playing.

Did anyone else notice these glitches?  If not, I will attempt to download the 3rd movement again, as the files may have been corrupted in transmission.  If others notice the same problem, then Guy needs to upload these two tracks again, assuming the tracks are OK on his live-to-disk CD.

Thanks,
JJ
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guy sergeant
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Re-edited 3rd Movement
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I'm not sure why your 3rd Movement Pt1 should stop at 9:16.  The recording doesn't have that problem.

Anyhow, I've re-edited the beginnings & ends of Pt1 & Pt2 to make them complete and the transition as it should be.

Here are the new links.

B8 3rd Movement Pt1 re edit

http://snk.to/f-chpfb58p

B8 3rd Movement Pt2 re edit

http://snk.to/f-c7k8gi5k

Incidentally I can put up the Bruckner 7 Romy went to if people are interested.
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JJ Triode
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Guys upload all fine now
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Guy,
Many thanks, you fixed whatever was wrong.  I still don't know why I lost half of the 3rd movement part 1, but it is all there now.  Part 2 is also complete to the last note, along with a considerable interlude of coughing and fidgeting before the 4th movement begins; I can see why you might have been a little hasty in editing that out.

It is indeed an amazing ride.

Rgds,
JJ
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guy sergeant
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Bruckner 7
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Here's the B7 with Esa Pekka Salonen & the Philharmonia.  The filesharing site was being very strict in not allowing uploads >100MB but some careful editing means that these files can be run sequentially without interrupting any music.

1st Movement Pt1

http://snk.to/f-chilrflj

1st Movement Pt2

http://snk.to/f-chkmw9mh

1st Movement Pt3

http://snk.to/f-chp34m3u

2nd Movement Pt1

http://snk.to/f-c7hnepnx

2nd Movement Pt2

http://snk.to/f-chj5gi5k

2nd Movement Pt3

http://snk.to/f-chmfo8fn

3rd Movement

http://snk.to/f-ch3fo8fn

4th Movement Pt1

http://snk.to/f-c71pqkpz

4th Movement Pt2

http://snk.to/f-chj8b58p
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Romy the Cat


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Yes, it is wondefull.
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 JJ Triode wrote:
It is indeed an amazing ride.

Actually I was listening the very same 8th probably 6-7 times since we return back from UK. It is truly wonderful interpretation with the last two moments being absolutely phenomenal.

BTW, JJ, would you be so kind to change your email at the site registration as it bonuses back. If you do not want to get the notification then you can click the “Disable Email” button atop of each thread.

The Cat

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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scooter
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B7 Files mixedup
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Thanks Guy for taking the time on the B7 here as it would be worth a quick listen. Note that the 1st movement (pt.1, pt.2, pt.3) all include the same 3rd movement file by error. The 4th movement pt.2 link does not work.
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guy sergeant
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File Sharing oddness
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Here's the 4th Movement Pt2

http://snk.to/f-ctcfo8fn

Not sure why those 1st Movement links all connect to the 3rd Movement. Will resolve it today.


EDIT: Try these links

1st M Pt1
http://snk.to/f-chilrflj

1st M Pt2
http://snk.to/f-chkmw9mh

1st M Pt3
http://snk.to/f-chp34m3u
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Romy the Cat


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The same phenomenal Bruckner 8.
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As almost a month passed but I still ca not go over some aspects of the Bruckner 8 that was played at the Proms. I would like to do something specials for you guys. Among all different versions of the Proms recording I picked the one that I feel would be the best and created a small MP3 file of the last movement, the magnificent “Feierlich, nicht schnell”.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4i46ckkk7acvfke

Listen that and learn how Bruckner shall be performed. Discard some manor VPO bloopers – instead get the majesty of that music and discover/learn how Bruckner MIGH be played.

Among many of my favorite moment at this recording there is the one what the orchestra begin to develop the final closing, it is ~ at 20.15m. The first violins run this gorges vibrating mosaic, ala the adagio from 7th symphony, and then the horn introduce that phenomenal thyme of releasing of sins with consequential whole orchestral build up. The VPO did just phenomenal in there and the setting is very close to the Master and Margarita what Worland realize Pontius Pilate's and he walk the moonlight to his Christ. I have been listening probably 2-3 times a day that Bruckner 8 since return from London.

The Cat

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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rogier
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Bruckner 5 from Holland
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It seems every conductor has his/her own interpretation/feel of Bruckner.
Here is one from last sunday, Bruckner 5.

http://radio.omroep.nl/u/201446/?silverlight=

The concert begins about 19 mins. into the program, don't be too much annoyed by the mp3-compression which eats up a great deal of the dynamic range...

With kind regards,  rogier
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Romy the Cat


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I want more of it.
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Thanks, rogier this is very nice of you to post it.  So, it is Concertgebouw conducted by Nikolaus Harnoncourt, live. Very interesting. I will be listening it tomorrow.

Does this station has the page that future all Concertgebouw concerts? I found this one:

http://www.radio4.nl/webradio.html

... but for whatever reasons Google does not translate it.

BTW, the mp3-compression usually does not eat up dynamic range. mp3-compression is digital compression and it is not dynamic compression. The mp3 still might be dynamically compressed of cause but it is not hereditary for digital compression.

The Cay

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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Same concert. More bits
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 Here is the same concert only instead of 192kBit it is in 250kBs

http://concerthuis.radio4.nl/concert/3841/Zondagmiddagconcert_Koninklijk_Concertgebouw_o.l.v._Nicolaus_Harnoncourt

Even the bandwidth the feed is higher but we do not know what was the source for the files and how the file were cooked for the feeds. I presume that the 250kBs feed will be better, but this is just a presumption…



"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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rogier
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Stream @ 256 kbps
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Thanks for the link, this is even higher than the 192 kbps which is already the max for most stations.
Only the the concerts which are aired via Radio 4 you will find on this site.
Concerthuis (something  like concert home) keeps the concerts online for 3 months from the airing-date, this is enough time to decide if interesting enough to download (via the IE5-content-trick..).
Hopefully there will be more Bruckner....

With kind regards, rogier
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Romy the Cat


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Does anybody flying in to Boston from UK soon?
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Hey, Brits,

I need to bring to US one small object but US custom has tendency to destroy it. It is nothing  contraband, illegal or anything like that. So, I wonder if anyone would be soon flying from UK to any airport around Boston or to New England who would be OK to care my package in airplane’s hand care?

The Cat



"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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rogier
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Another Bruckner
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This time Bruckner 9, this was last sunday.

With kind regards, rogier

http://concerthuis.radio4.nl/concert/4292/Het_Zondagmiddagconcert_pianist_Lars_Vogt_en_Koninklijk_Concertgebouworkest_o.l.v._Maris_Janssons?work=17943
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Romy the Cat


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"Wagner and Bruckner have been a passion of my life."
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 Romy the Cat wrote:

 Romy the Cat wrote:
Please, please, please, the British folks, make sure that you have download, record or whatever you do the last night Bruckner 8 performance. Leave the hornblende Bach plaing in the first part alone and preserve that Brucker. Lorin Maazel is gineus and the interpretation that interpretation that he showed last night was each high magnitude that it instantly in my mind elevated him to the most able Brucker conductors alave.  Discard occasional bad play of VPO. The performance last nitght was much much deeper in the meaning. Lucky we who were there as it was truly life time opportunity to hear Bruckner 8 as it was. Lorin Maazel must  to take Viana Philarmonic  to one of those German churches and to live to as a recording.

I was listening yesterday and today the Lorin Maazel performance of Bruckner 8 from the Proms two weeks ago. I was listening it again and the more I am listening the more I am shocked how stunning smart Maazel plays Bruckner. Do not run in a store and buy Maazel’s Bruckner. Whatever he did with Bruckner before was not good. During the proms it was a complete transformation and listening the recording I have no idea where from all that phenomenal brilliance came to Lorin Maazel.

Vienna Philharmonic did not good job at all, particularly during the first two movements. Perhaps after Musikverein they sat in the horrible Royal Albert Hall and were not able to hear each other. I do not know what was going on with them. If they play well, as they perfectly able to play then this performance from the Proms would be literally the panicle immortal performance, entering the realm of Matacic 7 or Giulini 9.  The bad play of Vienna will be most likely an assurance that the recording of the event never will be released – an incredible shame as I would very much would like to have it.
Again, me greatest compliment to Lorin Maazel – what a play!!!

I have been announced everywhere that Lorin Maazel died yesterday.

Interesting that in the end of his live he conducted a lot of Bruckner and we am lucky that we caught one in London. Here are some of his interviews....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tGx1uzCDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poJQuzn4q1c

and of cause what might be more beautiful and solemn then the adagio from M5 for the occasion ...



The Cat

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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