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Was talking with various audio people about the 6C33C I was amazed that people are so clueless about this tube. The people are so filled with some foolish prejudges and faulty notions about 6C33C that I deseeded to put together a brief “6C33C user ma...
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The reason that I built the 6C33C preamp was to explore the 6C33C true musical potential like I did with the 845. Not only did I compare the sound of these tubes in power amp, but also in preamp. The reason is that with power amp you might hit some l...
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[quote user="KOTriode"]The preamp has the classic tube regulated power supply using 5R4, 6AS7, 6SJ7. It is transformer coupled output and has no capacitor in the signal chain, the gain is about 8db, so it is not a buffer. For convenience, it does...
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[quote user="KOTriode"]Romy, in the contrary, it is very unfair to compare my 845 amp with the 6C33C. The main reason is the 845 amp used the best output/interstage transformer available, while the 6C33C's output xformer is pretty good but far from b...
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[quote user="KOTriode"] On dynamic, the 6C33C tube showed its ability to go deep in the bass on Ray Brown trio recording of Soular Energy which is excellent for a 15W SE , the 845 amp can do better, but not by much, but probably because of its 25W ou...
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[quote user="KOTriode"]Romy,I have good confidence that it was the tubes and not the circuit. I have checked the cathode driver that bias the 6C33C and there was not any problem. Sure if the cathode bias failed, the 6C33C current will shoot way u...
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Wow! I did not realized that almost 4 months have passed since I wrote last.
Quite a few things have happened the last 4 months that I have played with the 6C33Camp/preamp combo. I have tried at least 3 different vendors on the Ulyanovsk type, the ...
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Well, I would say that “something is wrong” as what you report it is not how it shall be. I had my doubts about the rational to use 6C33C in direct heating coupling but the “danger” in direct coupling uselessly coming from the plate of the driver...
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Romy, in the contrary, it is very unfair to compare my 845 amp with the 6C33C. The main reason is the 845 amp used the best output/interstage transformer available, while the 6C33C's output xformer is pretty good but far from being best for the 6C33C...
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[quote user="morricab"] The one thing that the Lamm ML2 does differently than nearly all tube amps is regulation of the output stage. They do this with the 2nd 6C33C that is on the chassis. Even the KR amps don't do this and I think it is...
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Somewhere in 1997-88 I bought a hundred 6C33C. I believe during those years the where more expensive then now and I paid around $7-8 per tube. Over the years burning the 6C33C in pair of VK-60 (8 tubes), two pair of Lamm ML2 (ML2), ML2 with Melquiade...
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[quote user="KOTriode"]The preamp has the classic tube regulated power supply using 5R4, 6AS7, 6SJ7. It is transformer coupled output and has no capacitor in the signal chain, the gain is about 8db, so it is not a buffer. For convenience, it does...
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I actually took the remaining dozen of gold grided 6C33C from that eBay guy. It is hard to say what those tubes might be and it is most likely absolutely not necessary in my case. Still, I figured that to get a dozen of 6C33C for a price of a pair o...
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The mean KOTriode in his thread “A different breed of 6C33C amplifier“ jinxed me with his 6C33C vulnerability and today my output tube at right midbass channel went down. The characteristic pings, which via the midbass horn sound like house room is c...
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It turned out that I made my Melquiadenisation with 6C33C. Not practically because it is good or bad tube. The choose of 6C33C was partially accidental: in the beginning I was trying to make an amp that would be able to work in multi-app configuratio...
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[quote user="Paul S"]Aparently, a few people complained back to Ken Chait that his "carefully-matched" (with an adaptor on his Amplitrex AT-1000 machine, i presume) pairs either weren't matched to begin with, or they did not stay matched. Anyway...
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I understand that AudioValve would like to keep their generic chasses for all their models but I think what they did with Assistant 100 amp is very wrong in term of chasses architecture. They claim the “special familiarity with 6C33C” but it is not w...
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[quote user="haralanov"]N-set, a friend of mine built an amp with this monstrous USSR tube. It has 3 stages and the GU81M is driven by 6C33C. Within context of driving mid or high sensitivity bass drivers, this is all you need. In comparison, his pre...
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[quote user="KOTriode"]Ok, I will try to lower the primary impedance like you suggested, but it will be on the new 6C33C mono block amplifier that I am building. The custom made chassis will be finished by next week and I have the better components w...
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[quote user="KOTriode"] On dynamic, the 6C33C tube showed its ability to go deep in the bass on Ray Brown trio recording of Soular Energy which is excellent for a 15W SE , the 845 amp can do better, but not by much, but probably because of its 25W ou...
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After spending considerable amount on the hum problem, one way to fix it is tho remove transformer and place it in a different chassis, the noise level will improve more than 15 db to -74db. But that cause too much hassle, so I got it improved to 62d...
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Few weeks ago, I had the chance to visit KOtriode and listen to his system but more specifically his Preamp. The preamp use half of the 6C33C per channel (one 6C33C has two triodes). It has two outputs, one is transformer coupled output, the other is...
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New here, but I thought I would continue my 5+ year search for another pair of these sockets. I have all the parts to build a 6C33C OTL using 4 tubes and would like to find another pair of these. I have one pair that I happened upon late one night ...
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Shame on you Romy, you took them all without leaving some for others!I am waiting for the shipment of these tubes, I only bought 3 to try it out in my amp. In the meantime, I am running my amp with the rest of these unknown qualities from Asia with f...
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Romy,I added the fuse recently just for protection for the output transformer since these 6C33C tubes plate current can get very high and might damaged them. Also DC coupling on this high gm tube can cause plate current to go max if something failed....
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[quote user="Dominik"]Hi,From Pieter:"For me it is normal practice to do good specifications. I go for 10 Hy's at 250mA. 10 Hy's with 512 ohms source impedance will give 8 Hz cut off frequency."[/quote] Dominik, when you get your transformer from Pie...
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[quote user="Cosmos"] Anyway, as the description on our site on second paragraph says, the third 6C33 located at the back, is used as the pass element of the regulator (controlled by solid state circuitry) providing 220V with 100uV of random noise &a...
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Maybe of interest: 6C33C Teflon Sockets with Heat Sinks built-on.
http://www.partsconnexion.com/CONNEX-73299.html
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Hi,[quote user="Romy the Cat"]could I instead of trashing the tube to flip it to the left filament and continue to use the unused part of the cathode, plate and filament? [/quote]Sure you could.[quote user="Romy the Cat"]Theoretically it might be the...
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Vp = 240v, Vg = -90v, Ip = 165 ma, RL=1k5, 10W, H2 = 6.9%, H3=1%, H4=0.2% I used it with cathode bias (used 50w resitor, backed by 10x200uF capacitor). How it sounded - warm and punchy. I had an amp with F-3 about ...
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