06-07-2025 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Romy the Cat Boston, MA Posts 10,363 Joined on 05-28-2004 Post #: 1 Post ID: 28234 Reply to: 28234 The Color of Bass The genuinely great bass is Black. Not the 50 shades of gray, as most of you have, but black. Try to purify and cultivate within yourself this notion of absolute blackness, and you will see how far off your bass is. A lot of music has no blackness, and most of the playbacks/rooms can't support the intense blackness. A true blackness alters time/space, allowing consciousness to arrive at the moment of an intense consumption blackness in its own unique way. To me, the time feels like it slows down, and when the blackness strikes, it feels like there is no time, no space and no matter. There is only a pressure that emanates from the depth of blackness. In a way, it feels that behind each intense sonic blackness, there is a miniature black hole. Try this. Get Bruckner's Eighth Symphony, conducted by Günter Wand with the NDR recorded live in 1987 at Lubeck Cathedral, the second movement , the Scherzo.  Turn on all reverberation channels up. Play it loud and observe how frequently those back holes form and collapse… If the level of your bass darkness is not too deep, not too black but dark gray, and you do not experience the gravity of that deep-black singularity, then shut down your playback and switch to the collection of stamps "I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche

06-07-2025 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Paul S San Diego, California, USA Posts 2,760 Joined on 10-12-2006 Post #: 2 Post ID: 28235 Reply to: 28234 Which of Your Systems Sets the Example Here? Romy, I have not tried this with your test perameters yet,  but which of your systems are you using to establish this example? Is it 15" sealed over 18" Aurasounds, or are you saying the 15" corner horns do this with RI, or what? Best regards, Paul S

06-07-2025 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree rowuk Germany Posts 457 Joined on 07-05-2012 Post #: 3 Post ID: 28236 Reply to: 28234 We get our bass wrong because we talk about pressure Great deep bass to me is more like vacuum instead of pressure. I get sucked in, not blown over. I think that general talking about bass applies more to midbass slam instead of the huge cloud (or black hole) that I believe low bass to be.In the concert halls or churches where I perform, the lowest octave (<40Hz) feels more like something gently touching me rather than making my pant leg flap. Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

06-07-2025 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Romy the Cat Boston, MA Posts 10,363 Joined on 05-28-2004 Post #: 4 Post ID: 28237 Reply to: 28236 It is certainly not audio black matter but... I think from a level from which I approach the subject, the vacuum and the pressure are the same Force. They might be linguistically presume different polarity of the force by the nature behind is the same: contractiveness to something endless. When we stay at the very age of Grand canyon and looking for a mile down do we experience the gravity of this depth by force or by attraction? I think they are the same.  We are certainly loaded with a sentiment where are physical defined presence projected to endless and unreachable vacuum of nothingness and this vacuum of nothingness is a force. Not an acoustical way but rather in a perceptional way. I'm very far from presenting in concept of audio black matter. Hypothetical astronomical black matter is force which impact matter. The presence of all audio absolute blackness does not impact sound. However, in my view, it's greatly impact our perception sending us a message of gruesome seriousness of an auditable event. "I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche