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Posted by Romy the Cat on
06-07-2025
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The genuinely great bass is Black. Not the 50 shades of gray, as most of you have, but black. Try to purify and cultivate within yourself this notion of absolute blackness, and you will see how far off your bass is.
A lot of music has no blackness, and most of the playbacks/rooms can't support the intense blackness. A true blackness alters time/space, allowing consciousness to arrive at the moment of an intense consumption blackness in its own unique way. To me, the time feels like it slows down, and when the blackness strikes, it feels like there is no time, no space and no matter. There is only a pressure that emanates from the depth of blackness. In a way, it feels that behind each intense sonic blackness, there is a miniature black hole.
Try this. Get Bruckner's Eighth Symphony, conducted by Günter Wand with the NDR recorded live in 1987 at Lubeck Cathedral, the second movement , the Scherzo. Turn on all reverberation channels up. Play it loud and observe how frequently those back holes form and collapse…
If the level of your bass darkness is not too deep, not too black but dark gray, and you do not experience the gravity of that deep-black singularity, then shut down your playback and switch to the collection of stamps
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Posted by Paul S on
06-07-2025
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Romy, I have not tried this with your test perameters yet, but which of your systems are you using to establish this example? Is it 15" sealed over 18" Aurasounds, or are you saying the 15" corner horns do this with RI, or what?
Best regards,
Paul S
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Posted by rowuk on
06-07-2025
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Great deep bass to me is more like vacuum instead of pressure. I get sucked in, not blown over. I think that general talking about bass applies more to midbass slam instead of the huge cloud (or black hole) that I believe low bass to be.In the concert halls or churches where I perform, the lowest octave (<40Hz) feels more like something gently touching me rather than making my pant leg flap.
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Posted by Romy the Cat on
06-07-2025
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I think from a level from which I approach the subject, the vacuum and the pressure are the same Force. They might be linguistically presume different polarity of the force by the nature behind is the same: contractiveness to something endless. When we stay at the very age of Grand canyon and looking for a mile down do we experience the gravity of this depth by force or by attraction? I think they are the same. We are certainly loaded with a sentiment where are physical defined presence projected to endless and unreachable vacuum of nothingness and this vacuum of nothingness is a force. Not an acoustical way but rather in a perceptional way. I'm very far from presenting in concept of audio black matter. Hypothetical astronomical black matter is force which impact matter. The presence of all audio absolute blackness does not impact sound. However, in my view, it's greatly impact our perception sending us a message of gruesome seriousness of an auditable event.
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Posted by Romy the Cat on
06-08-2025
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Paul, I am ntentionaly not going in the dive into the techniques how I did it. This is kind of irrelevant. What is relevant that the state of that absolute blackness exist? I recorded a video when I examined it in details a week ago, but I decided not to post it. In the video I described how to identify the state absolute blackness and distincted from endless amount of gray shadows of bass. To make it very brief and simple here are the main concepts. Any version of gray bass emanates something toward to listener. The absolute black base does not emanate anything. It completely free from any radiation and kind of might be described as rowuk's vacuum.
However, vacuum is a passive force but my observation that absolutely bass does radiate something. The fourth that it sends is a strange sense of endless fear. The depths of this blackness should be high that it's become literally like a singularity of the black hole into which you do not want even to look. However, this fear is not the fear of the black hole itself but a fear of losing our own attachment to anything that we know. So the black hole become a bottomless well of uncertainties which obviously make us uncomfortable.
So, listening music, we are traveling over our reality and the presence of absolute black bass remind us that there are spaces in our soundstage where our control collapses and uncertainty become. This became slightly difference listening. This new listening is stopping to become an esthetical or ethical ceremony and become rathe and explorative philosophical journey. I have three level of bass blackness in my listening room and when I activate them then I clearly see that philosophical value of my music has direct correlation with the blackness of my bass. It is one of many aspects of audio which highlights my beloved transformation between physical and spiritual
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