Paragon, what is your problem?

In this thread I do not see anybody advocate any specific ways and no one set any “new path for others to follow”. If you spend time reading this site (and if you are an “avid believer of horn speakers throughout the years” then you must) then you might learn than no one around here care s about others (thankfully) and no one have any interest to set paths for others. Whatever Skushino, me or you say – all of it is wide open for questioning. You find yourself questioning Skushino findings? Good, I question my findings all time. Now let to have reasons…

I do not know what Skushino position about CH Audio horn is.  I do not think he has any position. As far as I know he was stupid enough to live for Afghanistan and nowadays the only interest in speakers he has is to put them under the camel’s legs while he is performing camel’s artificial insemination. Still, the CH Audio were brought very properly as they were some kind of illustration how a speaker use the whole room’s height. I still have no idea what the CH Audio do under MF, if you know then I hope you will elaborate. I do not think that there is a conversation about ignoring and if Skushino decided to do so then why would you care?

My personal interest in thins thread, if you support the company, would be to get from you explanation HOW the CH Audio bass section works in context of the room/environment. If you would like to pass other comments about CH Audio then I would start a new thread dedicated to CH Audio’s ideas.

Cats are territorial, no different than humans, and they very much like humans mark territory, sometimes with urine. They do mostly because the other cats obey the signs….

skushino wrote:

Haven't yet seen a camel here.  I don't believe they are indigenous to the region.  It's challenging being away from home, but no carnal thoughts of animals - yet.

skushino wrote:

…. Ignore the company's claim of using the ceiling and adjacent walls as extensions of the horn flare.

A UK guy with name “mrwippy” built a dedicated room for small mini-monitors. I am not a big fun of dedicated rooms but the construction ceremony looks interesting, even I would like do NOT go over it myself…

http://w142.photobucket.com/pbwidget.swf?pbwurl=http://w142.photobucket.com/albums/r81/4will8/d44ecd95.pbw

Paul S wrote:

One rarely sees this sort of construction in US, and even less as you travel West. It looks like a sort of "Pressure Cooker" for certain frequencies, likely requiring some sort of "damping" and other shaping measures in order to get even FR output. OTOH, it is unlikely that there would be much need to boost much of anything. This is a legitimate tactic, IMO, but quite expense cost/sq. ft. in USA, relative to more "conventional" local construction. Neighbors should be grateful, however!

Well, if somebody were my neighbors then they would have much more to suffer then the esthetics of the catacombs that I might call “home”. A also feel that the UK guys was a bit overboard with the external layer of brisk. For the price I would go for the cathedral two-bend ceilings – the subject of my dream. I do not know about the "Pressure Cooker” - in think it very hard to predict but I think that it is much easy to release pressure then to build it up…

If I build the thing then I have a very clear idea what I would like to have. In fact my local friend has a model of the room that I feel is absolutely prefect to me. I have study my reaction to many different type of ceilings and I concluded that his type of the ceilings is the absolutely best to me. It is some kind of odd pleasure to be in that room and I would like very much to experiment with the similar. It is not large juts about 700 sq feet but with “external”  of suspended midbass horns  I would not need a bigger room

I'm sure you've probably seen this before, but here is another example of shoe horning a large horn into a room.

Discussion of this approach can be found here: 

  http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/140190-jean-michel-lecleach-horns-9.html?postid=1779897#post1779897

I find a house that looks like might be an interesting deal. It is more pricey that I initially thought but it has own interesting moments. The house has a nice near 700sq feet near room with cathedral ceiling that is built atop of double-car garage. The cool parts the one of the garages might be used at bottom-located horns. In this case I have absolutely no limitation about constriction restrictions or the length of the horn and it would be possible to make ½ size 40Hz horn in time alight position. I wonder how difficult to open a few sq meter of floor? Would it compromise the structural quality of the building?  It is reversible? I do not know if I will proceed with this property but it looks very interesting.

Miab, I have very limited knowledge in construction techniques, moist prevention and how all of it might affect a big horn. My very uneducated production suggests me that it is not truly a bid deal, but of cause if go this route then I certainly will consult with specialists.

Still, the back of the horn is sealed, with strong walls. What is differences my driver sit not in box in not climate controlled storage or if it sit inside the horn in attic” I think it the same. In fact in horn it has some ventilation via the mouth. Yes, attic cone run very hot (bad for ALNICO magnets) and might go cold. The cold 15” driver would have stiffer suspension and different Fs and Q. Still, I do not think that it might be terminal or dangers for a driver.

Nevertheless, it might be a good idea to THINK about it. Perhaps it would make scene if the driver in attic or outside to put whole back chamber in thermo-protective cocoon? There are some polymers that can run hot or cool from very low voltage and I have seen some thermo-stabilizing pad were made with them. I guess they might exist in shape of blanket… A good idea to think about it is the back chamber will be exposed.

My primary concern is not driver but the horn itself. If it will be attic and let say 12 feet horn will be made from “young” wood then after a year of sitting in attic the wood will be “loosing it’s youth” and the horn would need some “help”. I do not know, I need let professions to consult me about it.