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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 9,495
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 26
Post ID: 20617
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It is time to go for DPoLS?
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I got a few days an email from the site reader where he expressed interest about DPoLS and informed me that is working on his own methodology to deal with DPoLS.  This kind of revived in my memory when my own installation was in DPoLS positions, God, that was fantastic!!!

So, I kind of slowly begin to think if it would be a good time for me to try to chaise DPoLS with Macondo and my new listening room. Over 3 years that I live with my new current listening room I never went for DPoLS, I think I am in position to go for it now. The floors are flat now (hardwood) and the ma Macondo has felt at the bottom- so it more or less mobile.  I think I need to get a second person and spend a good listening day to try chasing the DPoLS. The DPoLS is in a way a mythical unicorn. The unicorn hunt is my wify’s favorite theme, perhaps I will be able to sell the concept to her and let her to move Macondo while I am listening.  Well, in the worse care I will sleeping a in basement next night -  not bad -  I can smoke sugars in there.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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rowuk


Germany
Posts 222
Joined on 07-05-2012

Post #: 27
Post ID: 20618
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DPoLS 3D?
fiogf49gjkf0d
Romy,
I say "Go for it"!  With your usual documentation, we can only profit from you getting the hernia first. I got mine operated on last week, so looking is all that I can do for the next 3 months.

One thing that has always roused my curiosity: your speakers are spread over quite a big area. Getting DPoLS for all of them at the same floor position seems to be a pretty big crap shoot. Your midbass horns are built in. What happens when the upper bass gets DPoLS? Does it become impossible to integrate?


Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
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Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
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Post #: 28
Post ID: 20619
Reply to: 20618
Room Loading vs...
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Yes, it is time again for me, too, as soon as my amps get back from United Radio. Among many choices to make, which music to target?

OT, Robin, I think every trumpet player I've ever known has had a hernia. Hope all goes well for you, but WTF?

Best regards,
Paul S
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Amir
Iran
Posts 142
Joined on 02-11-2009

Post #: 29
Post ID: 24796
Reply to: 15010
Confused
 Romy the Cat wrote:

So, you get a pair of loudspeakers and a room with comfortable foe you reflection pattern. You set up left loudspeaker (left for you) where I need to be. I always suggest starting from left loudspeaker as it cares the fist violins, sopranos of choruses and generally in western culture is associated with HF lead. You take RTA or TEF pulse analyzer and perfects align each channel of the loudspeaker to your listening position. Then you take a right loudspeaker and do the same. 


Rgs, Romy the Cat

what means "You set up left loudspeaker (left for you) " ? does it mean we should first position left speaker in a good place and then use RTA to Align channels after positioning? 
 Romy the Cat wrote:

They the fun begins. You need to align the right and left loudspeakers to each other in respect to this position in the room. We are not taking here about arrival time and it will be skewed and hardly measurable as we will not be able to subtract the modulations from reflections. So you take pulse analyzer away and using just TRA we are trying to setup R and L loudspeakers to have max amplitude of each other impact.  Here is where you deal with true DPoLS.


Rgs, Romy the Cat

does it mean we should again change speakers positions?does it mean we just align channels in this step?


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  »  New  Be careful: Imaging vs. Compression..  Compression vs. imaging...  Playback Listening  Forum     23  141980  10-24-2005
  »  New  The IDEAL horn system..  The future of loudspeakers according to Lynn Olson....  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     15  103485  12-11-2005
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  »  New  The most promising “best” commercial speaker..  Viva Audio...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     190  1236120  12-06-2006
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