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JANDL100


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Volkmar Andreae
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Yes, a great Bruckner conductor - but also a very fine composer in his own right.  I have a couple of CDs of Andreae's own music, both on the Swiss label Guild.  The string quartets are fine, but very special indeed are the piano trios.  Highly distinctive and very rewarding.


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Romy the Cat


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Those Bruckner’s erogenous zones...
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 unicon wrote:
Playing Bruckner I never can figure out which symphony I am hearing 1,2 ..7 (beside the symphony no 3, 8 lll)
If so, then what difference it makes you? The fact of immediate recognition is just a properly of familiarity. I for instance never confuse anything from 2nd and 7th but even if I did then what difference it makes? I think the purpose of listening is not to hear a tune and be able to position it within geography of your record shelves. It happens frequently that listen some work or more frequently chamber piece and have no slightest idea who it is. So, what is wrong with it? I think the important thing is not to be abscessed with your mind “owns” this or that piece of music but rather with to wonder if your mind does not loose itself in this music. From think perspective I think Bruckner is very clear, no matter what fraction of symphony you hear.  You always know where it coming from what it going and where you are as an observer.
 
Sure, Bruckner is not Mahler, not Richard Strauss and not Rimsky-Korsakov and he does not convert orchestral palette into a gipsy skirt. In a way, it is what I like about Bruckner and why I feel that that his music in a way recuperative after all those “expressionists”. Some women use a lot of make up to be feel pretty and some do need to…
 
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Romy the Cat


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From a point of view of an ordinary snob…
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 JANDL100 wrote:
Yes, a great Bruckner conductor ….
Hay, Jerry, long time no see…. I need to admit that Volkmar Andreae is better Bruckner conductor then his recordings are.  Even though I do like what is trying to do but I am not wild what he does. Volkmar Andreae clearly need better orchestras for his take on Bruckner. His recordings I listen were made Vienna Symphony. This is great orchestra and they had great musical directors: Furtwängler, Kabasta; Karajan but they do not sound like Vienna Philharmonic. What Volkmar Andreae in his take on Bruckner does not have (in my view) if the nobility and the very final authority of orchestral potency. Tonally his orchestra is not as complex and in ability to play soft his orchestra is not as able as Vienna Philharmonic or Berlin Philharmonic or Prague Philharmonic. Might he was screwed by the way how he was recorded? I do not know but his orchestra does sound to me as a final destination for Bruckner. BTW, this is the very same reasons why I do not like most of the Takashi Asahina’s Bruckner. All those Osaka Philharmonic, Tokyo Metropolitan, Japan Philharmonic, NHK Symphony Orchestra, Tokyo Symphony and others – they very seldom sound “serious” to me and frequently, if not always lack gravitas that I feel the Bruckner orchestra shall have. The Volkmar Andreae’s orchestra is not the NHK Symphony but it is not Vienna Philharmonic either….

The Cat


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"Not Vienna Philharmonic either."
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Actually it may be! At that time, and to some degree presently, the VPO had perhaps 250 members who played on a rotating basis; in fact a person didn't even have to attend the rehearsal to play in a concert. Those who weren't playing the VPO formed the basis of a rather large collection of other Vienna orchestras.

Moreover, the VPO gives not too many concerts per annum, but they always play at the Staatsoper.

Conclusion: You never know who you're hearing, of if the rehearsals even meant anything.

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"Bruckner is in it for the long haul."
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That's the best in-six-words-or-less description of any composer I've ever read. Thanks!

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Romy the Cat


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I do know what I am hearing.
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 clarkjohnsen wrote:
Actually it may be! At that time, and to some degree presently, the VPO had perhaps 250 members who played on a rotating basis; in fact a person didn't even have to attend the rehearsal to play in a concert. Those who weren't playing the VPO formed the basis of a rather large collection of other Vienna orchestras.

Moreover, the VPO gives not too many concerts per annum, but they always play at the Staatsoper.

Conclusion: You never know who you're hearing, of if the rehearsals even meant anything.
I did know that VPO has rotating basis that “didn't even have to attend the rehearsals”. Yes, in large cities with a number of good orchestras the musicals are intermingling between the bands. In London for instance the whole compilation authentic or “period” instruments players do play for different orchestras, not the least chairs though.  The festival orchestras are customary built with whomever available… So, it is very possible that some members of Vienna Philharmonic played for Vienna Symphony. However, if you download the Volkmar Andreae recording that I linked able then you will see that Vienna Symphony under Andreae did not sound like Vienna Philharmonic. In fact it sounded more, I would say parsimonious. This is why I brought this whole subject.

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AOK_Farmer


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Vox Aeternae...
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No one is even going to mention the Motets, Masses and jewel Te Deum? Seems to me that to get the Bruckner's musical ideas you have to understand his development from Contrapuntal organ --> Choral works --> Symphonies and the corresponding evolution of his ego. If you don't get Bruckner's symphonies (we are god) throttle back a notch and listen to the Choral music (god is god). Through it all he remains rooted in the beauty of the organs deep chromaticism.

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yoshi
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4th?
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I'm wondering why people do not mention Bruckner 4th, while 5,7,8, and 9 were talked about here and there.  I really love the 4th symphony.  My most favorite is Wand's last recording with NDR.  The one with Berlin Phil is great too.  As an orchestra performace, the one with Berlin might exceed in it's colorful, dynamic and tightly controlled structural sound, but his last recording with NDR, more monochrome and subdued, hits deeper in my soul.

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Romy the Cat


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Bruckner’s colors.
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I do not think that anybody has anything against the 4th, it is the most popular his work, all two of them. What interest me in your comment is that you find more monochrome and subdued version as something that deeper touch your soul. Is it just because Wand read/play the 4th differently during his last recording with NDR or you find it more communicative because the monochrome qualities? To me it is very opposite, I would like Bruckner to be lit with all imaginary orchestral colors; of cause the Bruckner’s colors not the Rimski-Korsakov gipsy colors. To do it I need a good German orchestra – they can do it. You however feel that subdued tonal deficiency is advantageous? Is it a general tendency that you are looking for? Is it tendency you feel better only for Bruckner’s Romantic symphony? Is it a tendency you feel work out only for this specific Wand interpretation? If the last then would it be possible that you got touched with something else in what Wand did but the monochrome characteristic is the only thing the you played attention?


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yoshi
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Monochrome
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I do admitt that I have a tendancy to be attracted monochromic works in general, rather than colorful extarvaganza, both in music and visual.  The colors, even strong colors, when balanced and co-ordinated under a specific intention, can achieve somewhat monochromic quality, and I love that.

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In case on Wand's last recording of 4th, every notes and phrases are so naturally placed without any strain, or feeling of any interpertation, it's almost like a Waka (Japanese traditional poem) masterpiece, in which the use of words and rhymes are so natural, you don't feel any intention or technic of the poet.  Just get the aethsetic/spiritual message.  2nd movement is exactly like that.  Also, from where the music turns quite mysterious right before the climax, then to the climax itself, I have more than 10 performances of 4th, but there's nothing like this.  No strain, no swagger, no show-off.  Just a steady, natural step to a nether world.

One other example of what I value most is heard on Herbert Kegel/Dresdner Philharmonie performing Bach's Aria from Ouverure 3, live in Tokyo 1989 (Altus ALT056).  There are zillion performances/recordings of Bach's Air.  Some plays it just as a beautiful piece of music, some puts an incredible amout of colors and nuances.  Some of them are really great musical achievement, but for me, this Kegel performanse is "IT".  It is also very subdued and monochrome with every nuance of joy and sorrow in the past embedded in it.

Maybe "in the past" is a key for me.  So many things happened in my recent life, I do not see my life in past~present~future term.  I have present and I have the past.  That's it.

Yoshi
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Romy the Cat


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Hhhh…, I think you are wrong + pet stones...
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 yoshi wrote:
I do admitt that I have a tendancy to be attracted monochromic works in general, rather than colorful extarvaganza, both in music and visual.  The colors, even strong colors, when balanced and co-ordinated under a specific intention, can achieve somewhat monochromic quality, and I love that.

Yes, I was expecting something like this.  I do not deny the power of monochrome as an expressive tool some kind of given specific application but I do not have a tendency to like anything monochromic. This is, BTW, why I do not like blond women - there is no expected event-contest between body and heir. Sure, everyone are perfectly with their constitutional rights to like what they have tendency to like but in what you said there is a mistake. It is not that you are wrong in your liking monochromic works. But I do feel that you wrong by contradicting “colorful extravaganza” to monochrome. Why suddenly the “colorful extravaganza”? Look around yourself right now – you do not see any colorful extravaganza – you see normal live colors. THAT is what opposite to monochrome, not the feared “colorful extravaganza”. I certainly do not knock your love of monochrome but I think you do not sell it properly. I personally do not like monochrome “as is”. I mire appreciate monochrome that has a reference to black and to white. For instance the image that you presented I do NOT find appealing. In order it to be appealing I would imbed the image in a very thin back frame. Then it will look to me as monochromic expression instead of too many time washed T-short. But is it me of cause...

BTW, back at my photography time 25-30 years back we had a printing, lighting and processing style that we called “high key”. I did like it but ONLY if it implemented properly.  I did some goggling trying to find for you an image but I did not like whatever I saw. Nowadays people are trying to do “high key” in digital domain but they ether do not know what they do of digital is not right tool to the thing. The Morons nowadys burn the lights and loosing the details in the lights. The properly done “high key” shall have a full spectra of tones but with very much reduced gamma. Like pretend thai image:

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… only the information in the light is not missed but has very-very fine own density. The enter image should be almost gray but it will have a few spots of the pure white, and of cause the  single black spot in eyes light up the whole “high key” presentation.  I do not criticize the portrait above  - the have different  objective, but I just illustrate what I value.

 

 yoshi wrote:
In case on Wand's last recording of 4th, every notes and phrases are so naturally placed without any strain, or feeling of any interpertation, it's almost like a Waka (Japanese traditional poem) masterpiece, in which the use of words and rhymes are so natural, you don't feel any intention or technic of the poet.  Just get the aethsetic/spiritual message.  2nd movement is exactly like that.  Also, from where the music turns quite mysterious right before the climax, then to the climax itself, I have more than 10 performances of 4th, but there's nothing like this.  No strain, no swagger, no show-off.  Just a steady, natural step to a nether world.

OK, I need to find, get it and to listen it, you need to give me the year of the recording. Interesting that the good things that what you described now has no relation to monochrome….

 yoshi wrote:
One other example of what I value most is heard on Herbert Kegel/Dresdner Philharmonie performing Bach's Aria from Ouverure 3, live in Tokyo 1989 (Altus ALT056).  There are zillion performances/recordings of Bach's Air.  Some plays it just as a beautiful piece of music, some puts an incredible amout of colors and nuances.  Some of them are really great musical achievement, but for me, this Kegel performanse is "IT".  It is also very subdued and monochrome with every nuance of joy and sorrow in the past embedded in it.

I think I have this CD, I do not remember it, I need to re-listen it again

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Maybe "in the past" is a key for me.  So many things happened in my recent life, I do not see my life in past~present~future term.  I have present and I have the past.  That's it.

Yoshi, reaching a certain age we all have only past. Interesting that “age“ is not what your driver license said but a pure  own perception. What I am trying to say is that our perception collapse much sooner than our ability to manage our own past and out own future. But the wonderful thing is that your perception is purely moderated by self-delusions and the fun part is that our definition of pleasure is not the actually of our past or our future but our reaction to ours self-delusions. What I learn from my Cat is that life might be very entertaining. Yesterday I went to my employer and told them that I am not showing up tomorrow because I won Massachusetts Lottery 148 million dollars and I do not need to work anymore. Of cause I did not win but I truly would like to say those words…

Rgs. Romy the Cat


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yoshi
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Monochrome/color
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Monochrome is a result of a manipuration of what you call "normal live colors".  In this case, "normal live colors" is the original element to be manipurated and not a contrary concept.  The contrary concept to monochrome would be enhanced colors.

Wand/NDR The Last Recording was done in 2001, a half a year before his death.  It seems like out of publication already.  There's some on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000063BYT/ref=s9_simh_bw_p15_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=01E488X23K3TF6VMC14V&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1280261722&pf_rd_i=5174

I do have an extra copy (Japanese pressing) which I bought when I broke the case.  I'll send you one.

For those interested, they released Wand/Munchner Bruckner cycle (4, 5, 6, 8 & 9) in LP set in Japan.  It is a limited edition, so if you are really interested, you better hurry.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3900388

You have Kegel Live In Tokyo with Egmund.  I don't think you have the one with Aria.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/921460

Yoshi


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Romy the Cat


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Fumiko Shiraga plays The Adagio
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I have been listening for the last week German player Fumiko Shiraga plays Bruckner’s sole piano works. The CD has the piano version of the Adagio from Symphony No. 7, the 26 min 40 second of pure hallucinogenic ride.

I think the world pianist need to look into the work deeper as I would like to hear it to plays more.

http://www.amazon.com/Bruckner-Piano-Works-Anton/dp/B00005YDNF

Despite that I like the Fumiko’s CD I very much disagree with her play of Bruckner. Did she study with Horowitz to bang the notes? I am not thrilled with her expressions, with her colors, with hear control dynamics, with the way how she care the poses and with many other things. I do not like the instrument she plays – it would be great for Chopin but not good for Bruckner, even it was the D Sternways. I do not like the room she played in and many other things in the recording. Still, I am very glad that I bought it and I do advise to get it. This is very “thin” Bruckner but it is fan to hear it in this way.  Wish somebody like Alfred Cortot or  Edwin Fischer or even young Maurizio Pollini  took the Adagio with their ability to throw the colors…

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Romy the Cat


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ATTN: free Bruckner 7 tonight in NY - Concertgebouw in Carnegie
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We upgraded our seats for Valentine's Day - two free tickets balcony center up for grabs if anyone can use them. Email the site.
Cheers, Amy the Kitten
PS Romy says offer only good if you didn't vote for Romney.


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BPO will play B7!!!
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BOSTON PHILHARMONIC just announced the 2013-14 Season and they will be playing Bruckner Symphony No. 7 on Friday, February 28, Symphony Hall, 8pm.

 
Special BPO Concert (rescheduled from April, 2013)
Beethoven, Coriolan Overture
Beethoven, Symphony No. 9
 
Monday, September 30, Symphony Hall, 8pm*
Friday, October 4, Symphony Hall, 8pm*
*Tickets for these concerts go on sale 9am, July 16
 
BPO Concert 1:
Wagner,Overture to Tannhäuser 
Prokofiev, Piano Concerto No. 2 - Jue Wang, piano
Tchaikovsky, Symphony No. 5
 
Thursday, October 24, Sanders Theatre, 7:30pm
Friday, October 25, Jordan Hall, 8pm
Sunday, October 27, Sanders Theatre, 3pm
 
BPYO Concert 1:
Wagner, Overture to Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg
Gandolfi,  The Zero Room and Soliton Waves from The Garden of Cosmic Speculation
Ravel, Piano Concerto in G - Christopher O'Riley, piano
Bartok, Concerto for Orchestra
 
Friday, November 15, Symphony Hall, 8pm 
 
BPO Concert 2:
Weber, Overture to Der Freischütz
Bartok, Violin Concerto No. 2 - Patricia Kopatchinskaja, violin
Brahms, Symphony No. 2
 
Thursday, November 21, Sanders Theatre, 7:30pm
Saturday, November 23, Jordan Hall, 8pm
Sunday, November 24, Sanders Theatre, 3pm
 
BPO Concert 3:
Mozart, Piano Concerto No. 25 in C Major, K. 503- Robert Levin, piano
Bruckner, Symphony No. 7
 
Friday, February 28, Symphony Hall, 8pm 
 
BPYO Concert 2: 
Barber, Music for a Scene by Shelley
Barber, Violin Concerto - Max Tan, violin
Mahler, Symphony No. 5
 
Friday, March 7, Symphony Hall, 8pm 
 
BPO Concert 4: 
Mahler, Symphony No. 9
 
Friday, April 25, Symphony Hall, 8pm 
 
BPYO Concert 3:
Ravel, Rapsodie Espagnole
Ginastera, Harp Concerto - Anna DeLoi, harp
Strauss, Don Quixote - Jonah Ellsworth, cello
 
Sunday, May 18, Symphony Hall, 3pm 
 
 
 


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How was the Carnegie Hall Staatskapelle Dresden Performs Bruckner's Eighth?
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April 20 in NY I think? On my laptop this sounded like an interesting concert and is worth a listen:
http://www.wqxr.org/programs/carnegie/2013/apr/19/#
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It was nice.
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Yes, I was listing it a few weeks back and it was nice. I do not remember why we missed it. It was on our radars but we were out of region. For sure it was much better then B7 played by Concertgebouw earlier this spring in Carnegie Hall.


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Today.
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It is not frequent Bruckner 7 in Boston and today is the day. Ben Zander takes today Boston Philharmonic with one single concert of Bruckner 7 at the symphony whole. I kind of feel almost responsible as I was harassing him last year asking him to play Bruckner 7, and today is the day.

On Monday I was at rehearsal and I was kind of surprised. It was a small and very live hall. BPO did the own usually thing – something is good and something is not and then they blew absolutely stunning second movement – from state to end – absolutely wonderfully! No it was not Matacic with Czechs but it was good enough.

What else was very imprecise was the fact the any single instruction the Zander give to the orchestra was something that I would give myself, so naturally Zander was brilliant. :-)

I told to Ben that there are only two type people in the world: those who have a privilege to stay at the podium while orchestra opening up those magnificent first bars the Bruckner 7 adagio and… the rest of the people. Well, tonight is the day. The fact that Kitty is playing my Bruckner 7 makes me naturally super enthusiastic …

The Cat



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8+8 vs F16
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I hope you had a great B7 in Boston!
Today we await the arrival of Zubin Metha to play the 8th symphony.
Here in Chicago, it will be on the 17th.
A Master takes his orchestra, and plays for peace.
Meanwhile, today, we send F16's to Poland.
I play and pray.
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Zubin Mehta in Boston with Bruckner
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Yep, Zubin Mehta brings B8 with Israel Philharmonic in Boston in the end of the month. That will be interesting. I do not think that Israel Philharmonic will be able to play it in the way I would like to hear it but there is no such a thing as too frequent Bruckner Eight.

Mehta, is an interesting conductor for Bruckner. For all intended purpose he never did any interesting Bruckner but when he was young he took Vienna and did B9 - it was good. I know 2-3 years back he took NY Philharmonic with B8 – the reviews were mixed but I did not hear it and I do not know if they were accurate.

The F16's to Poland is kind of predictable and in a way just beginning. The whole even is US instigated 5th column, the scenario that US was played at least in  20 countries below.

The Cat


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Andris Nelsons and BSO play Bruckner 7 in January
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snMDAl2kbOo&feature=youtu.be

at 23:30 min.


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Here in Boston?
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Can't get enuff of that good stuff!
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Rough B8
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Sadly not a blissful evening at Symphony Center.
To my ears the orchestra sounded unrefined, and the intonation of the horn section way off.
Occasionally in the quiet passages some magic was communicated, but overall they seemed 
unable to come to harmony with themselves, the hall, and the composition.
The audience, true to form, began its hysterical applause before the last note had come to silence.
So much for rapture.
Perhaps it will be better the next night, but I wonder.  
The musicians looked delighted, even the horns.


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What is Mats talking about?
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A preview form Boston
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Zubin Mehta played B8 with Israel Philharmonic in Chicago, the concert that Matt attended. I presume that the very same result is reasonably to expect from the same performance that we will have tomorrow in symphony Hall. I hope you will be attending.


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