| Search | Login/Register
   Home » Audio Discussions » Romy The Cat's new Listening Room (479 posts, 23 pages)
  Print Thread | 1st Post |  
Page 17 of 20 (479 items) Select Pages:  « First ... « 15 16 17 18 19 » ... Last »
   Target    Threads for related reading   Most recent post in related threads   Forum  Replies   Views   Started 
  »  New  Macondo Alternation. Extending the LF line-array..  Macondo and not only Macondo positioning...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     8  151135  10-29-2005
  »  New  Midbass Horns and Real Estate...  Just a youtube video......  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     247  2146815  07-26-2009
  »  New  A playback and wrong notes...  Why is it not common practice?...  Playback Listening  Forum     5  57737  03-12-2007
  »  New  All Active! A DSET and multi-way acoustic system...  Hahaha...  Audio Discussions  Forum     14  125160  01-31-2008
  »  New  The “Dead Points of Live Sound”..  Confused...  Playback Listening  Forum     28  326570  05-14-2005
  »  New  Don't position speakers but create Sound in room...  Listener position...  Audio For Dummies ™  Forum     1  44961  06-19-2006
  »  New  About speakers Imbedded Macro-Positioning...  Big room AEZ...  Playback Listening  Forum     15  187939  05-16-2007
  »  New  Macondo’s Midbass Project – the grown up time...  Vitavox 15/40...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     455  2978135  05-20-2010
  »  New  Another problem in my new listening room...  Bass Trap...  Analog Playback Forum     1  24408  08-24-2010
  »  New  Superbly interesting effect: Suspended decoupled floor ..  Superbly interesting effect: Suspended decoupled floor ...  Playback Listening  Forum     0  18119  10-08-2010
  »  New  About dymick sparkling...  About dymick sparkling....  Playback Listening  Forum     0  16896  10-29-2010
  »  New  Bass impact on Turntable: how to estimate objectively..  I have done some work on this in the past....  Analog Playback Forum     4  47645  11-01-2010
  »  New  I have a dream, the dream about a Chair...  A bit exaggerated to me....  Playback Listening  Forum     31  227772  10-29-2009
  »  New  Dedicated Music Room Build..  Show it....  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     6  61745  03-03-2011
  »  New  Listening rooms and composers...  On "typewriter music"....  Playback Listening  Forum     15  135988  05-16-2010
  »  New  How to play Bruckner Sound in Audio...  Being a pedagogical geniuses…...  Playback Listening  Forum     16  115531  06-15-2010
  »  New  Sound from behind a window...  Sound from behind a window....  Playback Listening  Forum     0  15070  04-24-2011
  »  New  Reinforced live sound in audio listening room..  Listening room acoustics...  Audio Discussions  Forum     4  37446  07-05-2012
  »  New  A listening room for a domesticated Cat?..  Eventually!...  Audio Discussions  Forum     283  954288  02-04-2016
  »  New  The ULF cannel for my new listening room...  The Organic Bass vs. ULF Drivers...  Audio Discussions  Forum     43  131026  07-29-2018
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 401
Post ID: 18643
Reply to: 18622
Sound back and sentences by structure
fiogf49gjkf0d
I did finish setup the room back to the sate it was before, minus the Injection Channels. It sounds OK but not as thrilling as I would like it to be and I remember. In my estimation it is due to the fact that I positioned Macondo too close to the back wall. It is approximately 1 foot closer to back wall then it use to be. I did it because the Amy’s new Oriental rug but now I feel I need to do something with it. The sound is a bit too geometrically-impersonal and lucking complexity in depth. Instead of getting personal with exclamatory nature and grabbing by the balls Sound has declaratively-illustrative nature. I do know that exertion of Macondo a bit into the room shell give some presentational bite and would add some death complexity. Now I need to find a way to deal with Amy’s carpet….


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 402
Post ID: 18644
Reply to: 18643
Here is how it is look.
fiogf49gjkf0d

ListeneingRoom_NewFloor_1.JPG

ListeneingRoom_NewFloor_2.JPG




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
jessie.dazzle


Paris, France
Posts 456
Joined on 04-23-2006

Post #: 403
Post ID: 18645
Reply to: 18644
Resolving the carpet issue
fiogf49gjkf0d
Romy wrote: "...Now I need to find a way to deal with Amy’s carpet…"

Just pull the channels forward to where you want them and jack up the rear of the frames with a shim so that they stand vertical. The mouths of the upper bass horns would be on the carpet; not a problem as those carpets are extremely durable and "violating the border" similar to what you've done with the placement of the couch will look fine.

jd*


How to short-circuit evolution: Enshrine mediocrity.
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Jorge
Austin TX
Posts 141
Joined on 10-17-2010

Post #: 404
Post ID: 18646
Reply to: 18645
Bonfire
fiogf49gjkf0d

Disregarding my inital thoughts about the carpet issue, you could always tuck more rug under the couch!

09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 405
Post ID: 18647
Reply to: 18646
Come on, guys, everything is not as straight as it appears.
fiogf49gjkf0d
Of cause I can pull the midbass to over the carpet and I can tuck more rug under the couch but I have completely different things to negotiate now and completely different objectives to follow.

Tucking more rug under the couch would not work as “rug will be all hidden under the couch”. To position of Macondo’s midbass over rug is also not advisable as “it does not look pretty”. With all audio-ridiculeness of those Amy’s objections I need to admit that she is right. So, I am looking for some kind of sensible balance between extending Macondo closer to the mid of the room and preservation of wholeness of the Amy’s carpet.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
rowuk


Germany
Posts 454
Joined on 07-05-2012

Post #: 406
Post ID: 18648
Reply to: 18647
Proof of concept?
fiogf49gjkf0d
Romy,
would it not make sense to PROVE that moving the speakers forward really works BEFORE worrying about the rug? If the real reason for what you are not getting is a floor resonance or reflection due to the rug or even having slightly less room volume due to the height of the floor, rug concerns slow the solution down.

If the sound gets more interesting, then you have to find a solution WITH Amy, if it is in fact something else, you may be back to a time similar to when when you had to add damping to the room.


Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Jorge
Austin TX
Posts 141
Joined on 10-17-2010

Post #: 407
Post ID: 18649
Reply to: 18648
Geometry
fiogf49gjkf0d

I like a lot how the room is looking, the plants in the center look great and sort of hide Melquiades very well.   I am sure the acoustic properties of the plant will make up for the wall to wall carpet no problem.  Actually I had trouble finding the amps at first glance, but detected the nice breakfast table on the deck!
Now If I may suggest a couple of things,  I like how the bronce pots look on the plants, I am thinking mabe a nice big sort of bronce parroquete cages around the Melquaides will look good and work as security against little hands.   Another thing, I have tried a few different colors on my horns and I think putting color on the horns makes a big change for the good,  maybe all white horns will look nice...

Now we all know moving speakers 1/4 of an inch makes big changes in sound,  one foot, makes a whole other room.
What about "sliding" Macondo around the room, now that you have a nice smooth wood floor, and, according to DpOLs place them in the perfect location!
Remember your room with the Midbass horns in the back require a more careful placement!
Now your system Romy, I am glad to say, is a world reference of what is posible to achieve in audio, and your opinions about room placement and audio in general are quite revered, even if secretly by some!
I am sure once you find the perfect spot for the speakers you can work out a nice place for the carpet,  maybe side ways, or maybe get a big pair of scissors, nah, forget that last one...

09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 408
Post ID: 18652
Reply to: 18644
A view from listening position.
fiogf49gjkf0d

ListeningRoom_NewFloor_3.JPG




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
Posts 2,658
Joined on 10-12-2006

Post #: 409
Post ID: 18653
Reply to: 18647
Aspects of a Dilemma
fiogf49gjkf0d
Not so easy to find, maybe, but how about a main rug with a narrower width?  I would also mention a wider rug, but the weight of Macondo on might ruin the pile...

If you had more of these rugs, would you be allowed to lap them in places, as many (with many rugs) do?  This seems to be an early step toward +/- ignoring rug/furniture boundaries.

Obviously, the speakers are too close to the wall...


Good Luck,
Paul S
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 410
Post ID: 18655
Reply to: 18652
Some feedback
fiogf49gjkf0d
I have moved the speakers toward to the mid of the room along with the carpet, the image from listening position has reflects it. I do have some imaging back and generally (presentation-wise) it does has some resemblance of Sound that use to be. However, I do not like sound I am getting. It is not focused properly. At this point I do not know what it is. I do not have Injection and I am ok with some tonal deficiency. However, I do not know why sound a bit overly defused. It is possible that reflective surface of untreated hardwood floor playing game with me. I am willing to go alone with it for a week or two to let the playback to burn in. There were a few changes made in playback and I would like to evaluate how it all works together.

We did not finish with the room decorating. It will last for another month or two. We need to find the small rags that we like, we need to redo both large triangular walls, we need to finish the piano bay. The basics are already here and so far the sonic result is not what I like. The Macondo is not calibrated yet, the channels are not time-aligned. I keep proponing it as I might try to do it by pulses this time but I still have my own reservations. So far there is nothing else to report besides the “work in progress”.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-22-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 411
Post ID: 18656
Reply to: 18655
Evening
fiogf49gjkf0d

ListeningRoom_NewFloor_4.JPG




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-23-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 412
Post ID: 18658
Reply to: 18655
I wonder why.
fiogf49gjkf0d
I am wondering what in configuration of m room was changed that made me do not like Sound. Here are the factors that I consider might be the reason.

1)      Obvious change the floor. I however do not think that it is the reasons as at my new hardwood floors all critical reflection points are covered by area rugs.
2)      Relocation of PP2000. Previously it was sitting at separate location, far away from the rest of equipment but now I put it under the main equipment rack. It is possible that PP2000 send across the air its switching supply radioactive voodoo that poison Sound. I did see it before and I do think that it is possible in my case.
3)      Removing the barrel. I use to have right under the main beam of my cathedral ceiling a large fiberglass pipe was hanging. That was very effective as it was located in acoustic focusing point of the whole room. As I put some handing spot lights I was forced to remove the fiberglass pipe and I wonder if that made my ceiling to have too much echo.

I can’t identify now if the problem I am having are acoustical of electrical nature. I am planning to experiment with it and probably filter out the acoustical reasons first as it would be easier to do. 
 
The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-23-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
JJ Triode
Posts 99
Joined on 09-12-2007

Post #: 413
Post ID: 18660
Reply to: 18658
Rugs and things
fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm sorry to say it, but I think Amy's large rug is too large.  A smaller one, or better yet, two much smaller ones with some bare floor in between, is what I would play with.

I also think you should recalibrate the channel levels and time-align them before making any more judgements about the room.  For sure you would not try to make your choice between an Audi and a BMW when both have bald tires and need new spark plugs...

The "visual feel" of the room is very much improved and this makes up for a lot.  The Sound will eventually come back with more efforts, probably not even major efforts.

Rgds,
JJ
09-23-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 414
Post ID: 18661
Reply to: 18660
In defense…
fiogf49gjkf0d
 JJ Triode wrote:
I'm sorry to say it, but I think Amy's large rug is too large.  A smaller one, or better yet, two much smaller ones with some bare floor in between, is what I would play with.

I also think you should recalibrate the channel levels and time-align them before making any more judgements about the room.  For sure you would not try to make your choice between an Audi and a BMW when both have bald tires and need new spark plugs...

The "visual feel" of the room is very much improved and this makes up for a lot.  The Sound will eventually come back with more efforts, probably not even major efforts.

JJ, the large carpet was my idea; I would go even for larger one. I like a large carpet in the mid of the room, it creates a good play zone. Probably a few smaller ones with some bare floor in between would be better for randomization of reflection but I do not think that it is too comfortable to live with, at least to me. My listening room is in fact one of 2 living rooms in our house and the room where we spend most of our time….

I do hear you that I need to time-align Macondo before looking at the room but I kind of know what Sound comes from time-misalignment. What I have now is different. It is like some kind of very mild white noise is injected in sound and I do feel that it is result ether PP3000 proximity or accustiks.
 


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-26-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 415
Post ID: 18674
Reply to: 18661
I can’t get it.
fiogf49gjkf0d
It is very interesting and I truly can’t get it. Sound in my room is basically the same only now it is not act as some kind of proverbial cloud in the room but rather glues itself to the room walls. Before the event in the room were unfolded in front of me and without well-defined bonds where they start and end. It was what I called the cloud presentation. Now it is not cloud but rather a wet mark on the side of the room. It is kind of boring and requires a lot of imagination to be “happy”.  Frankly it sound like very bad electricity day but I do not think that it has to do with electricity.  What I detected that I can to a great degree override this and get much closer to where I use to be in term of sound is I move my couch 10 inch forward. Macondo now 5 inch closer to the wall then it use to be and I tested this setting very well in past. I do not have explanation why I need to move listening position closer. They are well tested and well calibrated locations and 10 inch is a HUGE error that I can’t explain by different type of floor. Still, even if I move sweet spot 10 inch closer than I do pick the “cloud” effect but it is not near as complex as it use to be. Something else is wrong….


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-27-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 416
Post ID: 18675
Reply to: 18674
Haze.
fiogf49gjkf0d
Last night, after making the post above I spent a lot of time moving speakers and adjusting the location of sweet spot. Macondo still is not fine time-aligned but well enough to do what I need it to do. I generally was able to get some more or less acceptable sound with slightly different location of speaker and couch but it is not what bothers me. Above everything my playback has some very mind but very annoying haze. This is not noise but some kind of lack of crisp in presentation and THAT is something that I feel kills the whole giving and prohibit me to find the optimum new location of Macondo in the “new” room.

I truly do not know how to describe this haze. It is not the haze literally and not the “absent of back”, or anything like this. It sounds more like overly HF reverberant room, only room has to be fine. I can’t figure out if that haze is acoustic or electronic nature. I need to test it somehow and find a way to impact any change in the haze – then I will be able to know where it comes from and will address the reason. I am thinking about methodological step that I can make to make any different in the "haze"….


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-27-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Jorge
Austin TX
Posts 141
Joined on 10-17-2010

Post #: 417
Post ID: 18679
Reply to: 18675
Front wall
fiogf49gjkf0d
What you describe as "haze" in highs, happened to e when I added some shades in the front wall of my system, took it away and it was gone, I think highs were being disperesed too much, but I am just theorizing.    My system is VERY sensitive to anything I put in the front wall. 
Have you tried taking away the plants for a while and putting them back in?
09-27-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 418
Post ID: 18680
Reply to: 18679
It is very possible.
fiogf49gjkf0d
 Jorge wrote:
What you describe as "haze" in highs, happened to e when I added some shades in the front wall of my system, took it away and it was gone, I think highs were being disperesed too much, but I am just theorizing.    My system is VERY sensitive to anything I put in the front wall.  Have you tried taking away the plants for a while and putting them back in?
It is very possible. I did not spent a whole a lot of critical time with Sound in my room but for the time I did spent it looks like the room become more sensitive to the way how it dissipates HF. Obviously the wall-to-wall carpet the I had before consumed more HF then my local area rug… perhaps I need to review my acoustic treatment pattern, or perhaps I need to put that fiberglass barrel, sort of tube trap,  back to the ceiling…


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-30-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 419
Post ID: 18687
Reply to: 18680
It is nice to be back.
fiogf49gjkf0d

Yesterday I retune and recalibrated the whole Macondo and Milqs, tubes, drives, horns, angles, timing… everything. The snapshot or fully calibrated Macondo that I made in the page 14 of this thread was phenomenal help. I think everyone who runs multichannel multi-amp shall have something like this.

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Site_Images/MacondoCalibration.jpg

The sound as now is fine, I do think that I will be keep playing with some critical fine-positioning but the basic sound as not is more or less acceptable. I discovered that there were two major factors that fixed the problems I reported before.

First it was the large ceiling trunk that I removed as Amy wanted to have direct lights under the ceiling to highlight her carpet. The lights went up and the large 6 foot long and 1.5 foot diameter fiberglass barrel went down. The barrel, essentially large tube trap, was hanging at the delta of cathedral ceiling and it turn out to be hugely effective. I never had my room without it so, I did not expect that it will be so valuable. Now I need to put some kind of equivalent acoustic treatments at the same location. I was trying to put all fiberglass tube in there but Amy came to me and asked: “How temporary it is”. I am sure I will come up with something pretty and functional; I need a décor inspiration however…

Another interesting factor of the hazy and imbalanced sound that had no body was that fact that my Fundamental Channels were running for 5.5dB and 7dB lower. I know the people who do not know how Macondo works would not get it but it is what it is. The Fundamental Channels do not produce as much sound but they rather act as room coupler, setting the sound’s weight in the room.

Now, as I have playback back and as Macondo might with some efforts to slide across the floor I can go some fine-tuning of the speaker positioning and even try to attack the DPoLS.

Rgs,
Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
10-03-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 420
Post ID: 18689
Reply to: 18687
My comfy corner.
fiogf49gjkf0d
It is funny how it turns out to be. The listening spot, the 3-sit couch, located at sweet spot is not my favorite place to be nowadays.  For sure it offers best sound and for “critical” listening there is nothing then to be at the middle pillow of the couch. However, for some reasons I tend to be more frequently nowadays not at sweet spot but at one two corner chairs that my listening room has. The right chair is in the corner of the room for some reason feel very homey to me. Sound in there very nice and it have that very comfortable feeling of “home”. It has my favorite ottoman, it has little table, it has a little computer, it has light, it has blanket, if postponed in the room that make you to feel secure. I have no idea but I love this corner sit tremendously.

(Image was here)




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-28-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 421
Post ID: 20104
Reply to: 13235
It looks like I will have my listening room for a while.
fiogf49gjkf0d
I was not suicidal and was not truly upset but I did feel that I very much might lose something and never recover it. As we hook up with Kitty she was Dana-Farber physician and was moving to work to a regional hospital in south New Hampshire.  Naturally driving far she was thinking about moving to New Hampshire and I am not enthusiastically supported her. She told me that at new place I can build another listening room, thankfully in NH we can get a lot of space for the money. I was saying “of course” but I was not sure if I will be able to render the same listening room twice. My current listening room with the clandestine horns is an elegant design inspiration and I down that I will be able to pull that off again. Of course Amy is more important then horns, so I kind of mentally was preparing that my audio fun will not last long.

Well, what do you know? It turning out that Amy does not like her hospital anymore (they are in fact are Morons) and she is planning move back to Dana-Farber in Boston.  That is peaty much open an opportunity for us for many more years to live here, in the pool and under the horns. I hate to sound egotistically but I am kind of happy. The people who did not go over it and particularly not audio people have no idea how much labor of love made our listening rooms and I do not think that I will be able to do it again.
 


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
03-25-2014 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 422
Post ID: 20680
Reply to: 14997
WMD in house.
fiogf49gjkf0d
 Romy the Cat wrote:
 Romy the Cat wrote:
This mooring a brilliant idea hit me. Instead of the pale and un-spicy while foam the boars me I will use a completely different idea. I so got hooked on it that I ordered the parts already.  A few post above I made a post “Spectacularly cheap, pretty and effective.” about the new Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes.  The picture does not make justice to them – in real world they look spectacular. So, my new brilliant idea is to get rid all my acoustic treatment on this wall:

 

And to replace it with a ccustom-made organ-like pipes, made from Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes. I mean I will build the organ like pattern, with a combination of the tube of different size and different diameters. The Kanuf brown unfinished pipes looks spectacular ion my room. The only concern I have is that the top of the type will be at the same level as the exit of horn mouth – so I naturally would like the types do not make any Helmholtz resonating; otherwise I would need to close the types.

 

I very much like the idea as it will kill all HF reflection and very dramatically randomize MF. It might also superbly cool looking. I will be hanging a few “trunks” of the Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes under the center ridge of the cathedral selling  as well. The color of the Kanuf unfinished brown fiberglass tubes is very good matching with the color or my furniture and my carpet. Do not be too bound with the ugly plan-drawing I made. I do anticipate a very-very positive esthetic and caustic outcome of this attempt.

The Pussy.


That was done two weeks back but now I am uploading some images. I find absolutely wonderful from my point of view configuration how to treat the space behind and above my listening spot. I used the untreated version of the new brown-color pressed fiberglass tubes and I organized them in organ pattern with pipes of different decameter and height. This gives a wonderful combination of high absorption at HF with diffusion at mid frequency. The wall now look, feel and the most important sound very good. It is so good that I even place one pipe at the ridge of the cathedral ceiling, hanging atop of the room.

I very much like this configuration. There is one minor moment that I note – the HF absorption become less affective with temperature in the run under 60F. I think it is not a big deal to keep it above 60 as below 60F to be in the room is not particularly comfortable.

There is no negative health impact that I observe. Until I touch the pipes with my bare hands I fee nothing and since the pipes are sitting on the walls I do not touch them. It looks like the “carbuncles” do not drop from the walls themselves.

My original version had no leafs but it was a bit too boring scene. I added some leafs here and there and it sparkled the wall up and made a very good balance to the wall across with the leafs-loaded “bronze” clock. I also fell that some leafs made the reflection patter more random.

Looking at the all of it ornamentation I can’t deny that all of it look very gay. Furthermore, looking at the fun I had inventing and doing all of it I begun to question if I was a gay. However, the pictures that I took this morning do not convey the true lay of the land. The room’s sides have red mahogany feel and the bare walls feel screamingly empty.

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Site_Images/NewRoom_AcousticTreatment_3.JPG

The foliage color is very good come along with mahogany, not to mention that foliage colors are my favorite colors. This is very much what I like, the decadence colors of dilapidating walls mixed with despair and decay. If any better place then like this to play Bruckner?

NewRoom_AcousticTreatment_15.JPG

We label out kites as “Monsters” or “Weapons of mass distraction” – they slowly destroying the house. The last thing that they destroyed was the acoustic treatment behind the listening spot – I need to remove it as after the Cat run over it up and down 30205 times the treatment looks like it after WWIII.

Weapons_of_mass_distraction.JPG


 

Now the question is what to put in there. To have a parabolic surface in there is very important and to have that surface to eat upper and mid frequencies is very important. Wify of cause proposed a tapestry or sculpture but it will not be sufficiently absorbing acoustically. Ironically it is a very visible location in the room and it need to be “pretty”, whatever it means. Now I have a dilemma


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
06-30-2014 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 423
Post ID: 21061
Reply to: 20680
Hindenburg acoustic treatment.
fiogf49gjkf0d
A few days back Kitty had a farewell parry in her old hospital and she was given a bunch of party balloons. They were sitting udder at the cathedral ceiling of our listening room, with long 9 feel belts/ropes handing from the balloons, waiting time to be trashed...

Last night walking among the hanging belts like a submarine among a mind field it suddenly hit me that the concept might be a very interesting to you as a mobile  acoustic treatment.  The "belts/ropes" that hangs from air balloons might be in fact miniature acoustic trap or defuses and it would be very easy to put them in position. I can perfectly invasion let say 8 of those balloons sitting under the ceiling... in the mouth of my midbass horn - the location that they are not in a way of any way. Then as I need to deploy them during listening it would take no efforts to put them wherever I want.

This is not some kind of specific idea but rather an inspiration. I do envision let say 2 gas balloons with semi-deflective acoustic treatment between then that can be easy position in any location shielding out the undesirable acoustic zone of a listening room.

Rgs, the caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
07-21-2014 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 424
Post ID: 21112
Reply to: 13235
The third listening spot.
fiogf49gjkf0d
It is truly beautiful. Summer, water in the pool 82F for the last 3 weeks, there is no mastitis and weather is wonderfully. We are going with many home remodeling projects not and I frequently feel exhausted in end of the day, thanks to my current voluptuousness…

So, in the end of the day, as sun is setting down and world turn to soft warm colors it is unspeakably beautiful to max out the Macondo, to open the large pool doors, somber to the water that is warmer then air, light up a  deep pipe and spend some super relaxing time listening something like George Gurdjieff’s chants 

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
08-28-2014 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
Posts 10,160
Joined on 05-28-2004

Post #: 425
Post ID: 21187
Reply to: 13235
For sure a very different experience.
fiogf49gjkf0d
That is very different fun. Sitting on the deck and smoking something like Astleys 99 while Macondo was playing something spectacular is kind of common routine of mine foe years but today it is so different. Now I am in the same chair, on the same deck with the same pipe but it is very different music that entertains me.  
Amy is playing our new piano today this evening, I am sure many from many evenings to come, and it is very different fun. The piano we got acutely very surprised me. There is many thing not right with it (will be fixed) but some of the things is does is truly super pleasurable.  I was considering to deal with acoustics of the corner what the piano sits to make it even more mellow and more round but it turned out the it is truly perfect as it.   That is so different. ….


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Page 17 of 20 (479 items) Select Pages:  « First ... « 15 16 17 18 19 » ... Last »
   Target    Threads for related reading   Most recent post in related threads   Forum  Replies   Views   Started 
  »  New  Macondo Alternation. Extending the LF line-array..  Macondo and not only Macondo positioning...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     8  151135  10-29-2005
  »  New  Midbass Horns and Real Estate...  Just a youtube video......  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     247  2146815  07-26-2009
  »  New  A playback and wrong notes...  Why is it not common practice?...  Playback Listening  Forum     5  57737  03-12-2007
  »  New  All Active! A DSET and multi-way acoustic system...  Hahaha...  Audio Discussions  Forum     14  125160  01-31-2008
  »  New  The “Dead Points of Live Sound”..  Confused...  Playback Listening  Forum     28  326570  05-14-2005
  »  New  Don't position speakers but create Sound in room...  Listener position...  Audio For Dummies ™  Forum     1  44961  06-19-2006
  »  New  About speakers Imbedded Macro-Positioning...  Big room AEZ...  Playback Listening  Forum     15  187939  05-16-2007
  »  New  Macondo’s Midbass Project – the grown up time...  Vitavox 15/40...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     455  2978135  05-20-2010
  »  New  Another problem in my new listening room...  Bass Trap...  Analog Playback Forum     1  24408  08-24-2010
  »  New  Superbly interesting effect: Suspended decoupled floor ..  Superbly interesting effect: Suspended decoupled floor ...  Playback Listening  Forum     0  18119  10-08-2010
  »  New  About dymick sparkling...  About dymick sparkling....  Playback Listening  Forum     0  16896  10-29-2010
  »  New  Bass impact on Turntable: how to estimate objectively..  I have done some work on this in the past....  Analog Playback Forum     4  47645  11-01-2010
  »  New  I have a dream, the dream about a Chair...  A bit exaggerated to me....  Playback Listening  Forum     31  227772  10-29-2009
  »  New  Dedicated Music Room Build..  Show it....  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     6  61745  03-03-2011
  »  New  Listening rooms and composers...  On "typewriter music"....  Playback Listening  Forum     15  135988  05-16-2010
  »  New  How to play Bruckner Sound in Audio...  Being a pedagogical geniuses…...  Playback Listening  Forum     16  115531  06-15-2010
  »  New  Sound from behind a window...  Sound from behind a window....  Playback Listening  Forum     0  15070  04-24-2011
  »  New  Reinforced live sound in audio listening room..  Listening room acoustics...  Audio Discussions  Forum     4  37446  07-05-2012
  »  New  A listening room for a domesticated Cat?..  Eventually!...  Audio Discussions  Forum     283  954288  02-04-2016
  »  New  The ULF cannel for my new listening room...  The Organic Bass vs. ULF Drivers...  Audio Discussions  Forum     43  131026  07-29-2018
Home Page  |  Last 24Hours  | Search  |  SiteMap  | Questions or Problems | Copyright Note
The content of all messages within the Forums Copyright © by authors of the posts