steverino wrote:

FWIW I got my own PP 1050 a week ago and am pleased with the sound. It is the first active device that sounds as good as or better than my jury rigged passive filtration. Thanks Romy. As for chaining devices, I tried plugging in my VPI SDS into the PP 1050 and got worse sound than running it through the wall on the same circuit. I found that passive filtration After the PP 1050 improved sound however. Its worth trying the PS audio before the PP3000 but I'm skeptical that it will produce better sound. I guess you are now getting what Paul S and others have warned about. I myself started to notice sporadic unusually bad days for sound a few months ago. I don't know the cause but it probably was Dumb Grid shenanigans.

Well, here is good news:

http://www.purepoweraps.com/newsletter

Among many good improvements the bypass is there!!! Hallelujah!!!  Still, there is no remote control option for bypass, there is no distortion analyzer at input and output and there is no way order pizza from PurePower devise. The cleaner sine wave and tighter regulation are very significant accomplishments… if they are in fact cleaner sine wave and tighter regulation. Now I need to put my Cat in pawnshop to raise cash for the new version of PurePower.

steverino wrote:

Romy,  Are you aware that there is a new?! site for pure power -  (removed)  - which has the following statement on their site A management change at the end of 2011 closed the Canadian office. That office can no longer supply authentic PurePower products and cannot provide service, parts, or support for current owners of PurePower products.  All orders, tech support, and service are now provided by (removed)  exclusively.

Yes, I am familiar with the whole story. They are Chinese company that had been producing the regenerators for PurePower for years. I do not know what happened between them but in the end of the last year PurePower moved the production to Canada and the Chinese begin to market the PurePower regenerators as their own products. Up to recently they ran a web site that was a direst replica of PurePower site with juts change of company name. The sales for the Chinese is run but the Bob Rapoport – the former sales person for PurePower who insisted that he is inventor of PurePower regenerator, along with gravity, electricity and photosynthesis.

The whole story sad as I know who Bob Rapoport is, what he stands behind and if Taiwanese with their production facility desired to stake their reputation behind the Rapoport-like efforts then fuck the Taiwanese.  As I understand PurePower has judgment against Rapoport but the idiot acts in contempt of court as Taiwanese makers are not under US court jurisdiction. As the Purepower site said they sue their former maker in Taipei and I am sure they will close the case and the production of the counterfeited units.

I would like to warn you steverino, that I removed the reference in your post to the fraudulent site and the fraudulent company name as I do not want to give them any publicity. In respect to the US law judgment and elementary common sense the Stereophile refused to accept advertising from the forged PurePower, Google and Bing have removed all search results to the fake PurePower links.  So, I do the same and the fraudulent PurePower will not be mentioned at my site.  I think the whole story will be soon gone and the Taiwanese maker of PurePower-like regerenrators will be gone soon.

decoud wrote:

Yes, but is not the real question *how* different from the Taiwanese company's standard double conversion UPS the purepower units really are. If they are effectively the same topology and components (http://www.winstream.com.tw/products/RHC.htm) but with a different fascia, what you are paying for is not western intellectual input, but western leverage of market psychology and illiquidity that we all know and hate.

Canuck wrote:

Romy   Do you plan on trying the new PurePower Plus and if so when? Maybe they should send you a loaner to try for a decade or so.

I had yes today a meeting with a rep from out local solar company. I am kind of greenish pussy and have a house with a big rood turned to south – so I was wondering to put in there a large array of solar panels. Massachusetts has a very wide collection of solar rebates and solar tax incentives:

http://www.dsireusa.org/solar/incentives/index.cfm?re=1&ee=1&spv=1&st=1&srp=0&state=MA

…personal Tax Credits, property and sales tax exemptions, Massachusetts manufactured equipment bonus and etc. I do not mind to do it but I am a bit afraid that the solar inverter will screw up the sound of my electricity as it will be effectively multiple PurePower running at the same time…

 I found a local company that has a bit different business model. They do not sell you equipment and let to you store the electricity but they rather lease you the inhaled panels (no money out of pocket), install a separate meter that re-sells the energy to my utility company. So, the whole ceremony costs absolutely nothing to me and I effectively just lease my roof to them, in exchange to the profit sharing for the sold energy.  They claim that they have 12c per kW, while my utility company changes 17c, so effectively it will lower my electricity bill by 1/3. Not much but it is $100 a month with no investment of any kind.

Well, naturally what I worry if that type of regeneration and injection of contra-current into the grid will not screw up Sound. They allow me to go to one of their local clients and to measure the harmonics with their solar panels on and off, something that I am contemplating to do. Still, I am very concern that the cheap micro-generators that they use will do very bad sonically. I do not even mention that if Obama will not be reelected then all those companies might go down….

Anyhow, did anybody have any experience with sound from the renewable sources or how the presence of the renewables impacts Sound of the grid?

I do not know what they do and the story is a bit murky but still it would be interesting to learn what they are dealing with as it might be very much related to the problem I am familiar with.

http://www.synergisticresearch.com/featured/new-tranquility-base/

if the concept and the solution that the Synergistic Research uses works then it not suppose to be a “platform” for an indivisible devise but rather a global solution for while installation.

John Hoffman published an article in positive-feedback about the Liquid filled fuse:

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue61/audiomagic_nano.htm

… from audio-magic company.

http://www.audio-magic.com/Prod-NanoFuse.html

The whole story a bit controversial of cause but since my old POD cable I’m kind of a bit sucker for using liquid with electric conductors…

I did look at the audio-magic site. The make some power conditioning devises but I am a bit confused by their overly-liberated use of the word liquid. I was expected to see some kind of new power treating devise submerged in liquid but instead they use “Liquid Air” whatever it means. Would it be the same as manufacture who use “nickel-core transformers” made from iron? Anyhow, I juts would like to pay attention to the company.

There is one more thing that I would like to pay attention.  The company and the users claim improvement while using the fuse after 60 hours of break-in. That is good but I have a question to ask: how methodologically, theoretically or even hypothetically they were able to lock the normal change in greed electricity that took place over 60 hours if they do not use any means of power quality stabilization?

Synergistic Research looks like has a product that deal with electricity:

http://www.synergisticresearch.com/category/tesla-power-products/

http://www.synergisticresearch.com/tesla-power-products/the-powercell-story/

http://www.synergisticresearch.com/featured/galileo-series/

To grant to the product Tesla name is a bit… stupid but I guess this is how the industry feel.

I read the description of the theory and the way how they plug the Big Bang and the String Theory into the game. Sounds incredibly brainless, the explanation sounds brainless, not the way how the Powercell units sound themselves. I have no idea how the Powercell units sound and the reason I post it is to ask if anyone dealt with them.

Whatever subatomic, String of voodoo concept they use it for sure does not deal with fix the waveform clipping, this is what PP does but I wonder if it might be beneficial to try these  Powercell AFTER PurePower and to see if Synergistic Research “quantum intelligence” will be able to handle, or perhaps even to capitalize, the sound that PP does. My former experience with people who claim any dealing with quantum was very non-satisfactory but I did not deal with Synergistic Research’s power devises.

ricksmet wrote:

PurePower, www.purepoweraps.com, just updated their site and have some interesting videos on the new PurePower+ products.

Romy the Cat wrote:

I would be particularly interested to hear a feedback from the people who use PP3000 and who upgraded it to PP+…

manisandher wrote:

So why do I now prefer the sound with the PP2000 as opposed to last year when I stopped using it? I think it's because last year I never plugged all the components into it. Playing around with various configurations these last couple of day, what I've learned is that everything has to be plugged into the PP... even the PC. Otherwise the sound is too bright, forward and edgy, my main criticisms. Last year this was easily fixed by running from battery, but now with all the components running off the PP, the PP sounds very similar running from AC or from battery. I've just ordered a PP+3000 for my main system - the PP2000 will feed my study/office system. I'll report my thoughts on the difference between the two when the new one arrives in a few weeks' time.

Romy the Cat wrote:

You claim that it was “everything plugged” syndrome but I was writing about it years back and I thought that it was what you were doing. Even if you did not then in my view the superbly positive contribution of PP was still very observable…

Romy the Cat wrote:

Were you able to upgrade your PP2000 to PP3000+ or you just got another unit? If you have both of them then it would be very interesting to hear your comments about Sound of PP vs. PP+.

manisandher wrote:

Well I can pretty much replicate the sound I was getting last year - simply have the DAC and power amps plugged into the PP and the PC plugged into the wall socket.  The sound becomes brighter, thinner and more edgy. This is eliminated immediately by switching to battery and taking the power cord out of the PP. This effect is consistent and repeatable - I tried many, many times to be sure. I suspect that some sort of ground loop is introduced via the USB cable linking the PC to the DAC when the PC is connected to the wall socket, but who knows.