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Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
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Post #: 551
Post ID: 13734
Reply to: 13733
Oh, Say Can You See Kansei yet?
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In the end, only so much can be accomplished with hi-fi until the electricity is sorted out and made to be not only good, but also consistent. Congratulations on turning that very important corner.

Disappointed as I am to hear of yet another random sample delivered bad this far into the "new era", yet I am glad that either you persisted or APS relented to finally diagnose and repair your unit, not to mention the fact that, once again, the unit facilitated better sound from your system, in any case.

I am probably not alone in hoping that what appears to be continuing random, reactive QC is instead a Canadian variant of kansei engineering, in which case they could be rounding their own very round corner, their own way, themselves.

Best regards,
Paul S

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montepilot


Boston, MA.
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Post #: 552
Post ID: 13735
Reply to: 13734
PP2000 QA/QC
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"or APS relented to finally diagnose and repair your unit"

As a sidebar to my repair problems I must note that I did not have to pressure PurePower to repair my unit.  They responded to the matter in a timely fashion.  They arranged for UPS to pick up the unit from my home so I would not have to lug the quite heavy unit to a UPS distribution center. Richard Jansen stayed in contact with me by phone and email, to let me know how things were developing as they tried to sort out the problem.

Regards,

monetpilot


"It's like an act of murder; you play with the intent to commit something"--Duke Ellington
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 553
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A phenomenal no-event today.
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I was perhaps a textbook even but it was what it was.
 
Charles Dutoit lead today BSO with all-Russian program. It was Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto No. 1 featuring Kirill Gerstein. Ron della Cheisa announced the Dutoit on his podium, the orchestra takes the celebrated opening bars, the Kirill Gerstein join with piano and suddenly the lights in my house blink for a fraction of second. I look back and see the timers on my microwave and the ovens reset. I jump to my computer that was recording the broadcast and recognize that it was no event for my recorders. Neither Pacific, nor my DAW lost power and even the master clock never got locat. It was simply no event for my entire playback. .. thank to the PurePower 2000.
 
BTW, I wonder if I use my mechanical generator assembly then I hope to get the same effect. An immediate blip of power shall be consumed by the inertia of the motor-alternator rotating mass. I hope to test it…. BTW, the above-mention concert turn out to be a garbage but it was not the point….
 
The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 554
Post ID: 14166
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My motor-generator screwed up idea
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Well, what I told you that I am a Moron and you did not believe me then you were fools. Here is a case to point.

This week I deeded to connect my Holrick mechanical motor-generator in use. I did not mean to listen the sound of it. My objectives were to hear the mechanic noise level, for figure out how to connect it and to measure how it performs under different loads. The control board, the motor and the alternator are in wonderful shape and I was ready to plug them and then I realized that I have 3 Phase motor. What a bummer!

Of course I do not have in my residential neighborhood any 3 Phase 220 or 440V. All that I have is a typical American single phase 120-0-120. A call to electric company brought the news that to bring a 3 Phase will cost over $15K.  I am obviously will not do it to “try” how my motor-generator sound. Even the use of the phase converter is problematic. The dynamic phase converters for 10HP are huge and noisy machines themselves. The static phase converters – essentially a capacitor are problematic in operation. Perhaps I need to get or make on just to try…. I was thinking that for a price of a static phase converters I might get a single phase motor to spin my generator and juts to replace the existing 3 phase motor.

Again, it all would be fine option if I know that the motor-generator option sound fine. I have absolutely no assurance in it and to spend another $1K just for sake of pure uninsured experiment is a bit bothersome to me. At this point my 1000 pounds motor-generator is sitting on my driveway under a tarp and I do not know what to do with it next.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
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Post #: 555
Post ID: 14168
Reply to: 14166
Converters
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Small-ish shop machinists and others who really benefit from the solid reliability and efficiency of 3-phase motors all use rotary converters, which run all day, every day, without complaint. Yes, they are noisy; but they will also drive some cable, which allows you to move them away.

These things last forever, and they turn up often at wholesale equipment auctions. You might even be able to buy the cable at one of those auctions.

Best regards,
Paul S

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Bill
Kensington, NH
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Post #: 556
Post ID: 14170
Reply to: 14168
Voltage conversion
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If you want to try it out all you need is a large enough step up transformer for the current needed to convert the 240 to 440. I have several 2 and 3 KVA transformers in the attic you could use.


Bill
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 557
Post ID: 14172
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DIY capacitive static phase converter.
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Well, the third phase is a bitch. If I have a n extra motor then I might try this

http://www.team.net/www/shop-talk/hm3phase.html

but for now I think I will try a regular capacitive static converter with a cap to convert the US standard 220V

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_10/1.html

to 3 phase fake power.

http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/ph-conv/ph-conv.html

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post ID: 14175
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The Motor-Generator Assembly
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I found a good company that do converters price-effectively.  I sent to them my motor data and they will do a custom converter for it.  I will try how it goes…

http://www.wnysupply.com/index.cfma

Here is how my Motor-Generator look like....

Motor_Generators_Assembly_1.JPG

Motor_Generators_Assembly_2.JPG




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
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Rote Stats; Static vs. Rotary
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That sure looks like "authentic" equipment, all right. Like I mentioned early on, I was taught ~2hp/1kW for reliable operation and full duty cycle.  As I recall, any converter means +/- power losses and/or shorter duty/life cycles, but the static types were not as efficient.  Perhaps things have changed, or perhaps you have enough slack that it does not matter?

None of this stuff can be cheap!

Best regards,
Paul S
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Disappointment so far with motor-generator idea
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 Romy the Cat wrote:

OK, I agree – it might be not necessary as PP2000 does produce fine electricity in a convenient package. Furthermore it violates the rule that I try to follow in audio generally: define snick objective and ONLY then render audio methods.

http://www.romythecat.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=432

So, if the PP2000 produce a good sounding electricity then why I still bather myself to look into this subject? Well, probably because I am a Moron and intellectuals masturbation is very much not alien to me. The idea of TRYING the conceptually perfect electricity bugs me and I know that no one by myself would be able to satisfy my interests… So, I ate he bullet and got the motor-generator assembly. Did anybody believed that after I get ½ acre of unused lend then I will not try this option? Well, I did not get the house yet but being a fool I got the damn generator.

The really is that I did not what the opportunity pass by. There was a deal for one of those machines:

http://www.horlick.com/products.asp?prod=79&cat=65

http://www.horlick.com/images/MG-60RC-v4.pdf

It is not the induction motor-generators that commonly used everywhere and that suffer from slippage, voltage droops problem to care load, low efficiency, high distortion and frequency fluctuation. What I got is a set of true synchronous brushless motor and synchronous brushless generator, even they much more complex and much more expensive but they produce a perfect waveform that is synchronized with the rotation – a true mechanical regeneration.  It is very expensive set but I got a very good deal on it, not to mention that it is not current production but older machine that use US/UK made parts. It is 6.5kW and optimized to care inductive load– perfect for my application, with exception of 950 pounds weight and 80dB self noise.

The only problem that I see with this devise would be dealing with noise and with… unknown quality of sound it will produce. If the sound of electricity will be better than PP2000 then I think to build a soundproof generator shed on backyard.

http://curezone.com/upload/Members/ChazTheMeatHe/Books/Survival/BW_Mag/Generators_En/How_to_construct_a_soundproof_generator_shed_By_Skip_Thoms.pdf

I can do much better that what article suggest and I have many idea how to make it very chip but very effective.

So, the attempt is here. Funny that I made the move without having the house yet but I truly did not what the opportunity for a good motor-generator set to pass. I think if I get the house in March then sometime in the end of summer I will be able to try the motor-generator and to hear the sound it produces.  Let see how it goes but I know now that I will not be bitching that I never tried it. At this point I need to found somebody guilty if it will not sound good.


I spent today a half of the day to connect the Horlick motor-generator to setup the Horlick’s automation. The set has a very cool regulator. It is a mechanical multi-section device. The mechanical sound the unit produces is also surprisingly calm. It sounds like a large window air-conditioner – no louder.

Well, still a sort of disappointment. The generator does not produce a continuing sinusoid but a combination of very fine cords. It is not what I am l was looking for and I am not pleased.   I admit that despite of the patchy sinusoid  it the unit’s electricity still might sound not bad but I was kind of so pissed that I deseeded do not listen it for now.

Holrick_setup2.JPG

Holrick_setup2.JPG

Holrick_setup3.JPG

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Bud
upper left crust united snakes
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Post #: 561
Post ID: 14350
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The fine chords
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The sine wave actually looks quite good no hint of saturation, clipping or wave deformity. Only a single trace, rather than a twisted rope. I suspect that when placed under a load much of the "broken" curve will smooth out. I would also suspect that yet another layer of fine grained noise will disappear from the PP2000 when it gets a taste of this sine wave.

Bud
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 562
Post ID: 14353
Reply to: 14350
The large paper and oil caps?
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 Bud wrote:
The sine wave actually looks quite good no hint of saturation, clipping or wave deformity. Only a single trace, rather than a twisted rope. I suspect that when placed under a load much of the "broken" curve will smooth out. I would also suspect that yet another layer of fine grained noise will disappear from the PP2000 when it gets a taste of this sine wave.

Bud, yes you are right, this is a no-load wave.  You might be also right in your prediction that after I load the generator then the curve might smooth out. I took a lot of work to start the beast and expected more gratifying result. The conversion with automation and excitement circuits to single phase, dealing with 20A currents and 60A start up currents – all of it a pain in ass. I did not put any load in the game as I would like to put a runtime capacitance between the A and C line as now my generator get 3 phase only during start up and as soon the motor get cruse speed a relay shuts down the C line. During the run the motor run from 2 phases and it is losing 1/3 of power, I need to put a run time cap to fake the 3rd phase and to get more efficiency power from it. So, to use the motor-generator option is not a plug and play situation. Now, where can I find chip 250V paper and oil non-polarized caps of a few hundreds mfd I do not know. In the past I was trashing them as they had no use for me but now I need to buy them.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
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Post #: 563
Post ID: 14355
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Pole Pulsing?
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Not saying the "pieces effect" "matters", but is it possible that this stems from using 1-phase power instead of the designed-for 3-phase?  After all, the 1-phase is not merely "less power", but it also changes the way the power is delivered.  Too bad the 3-phase is such a hassle; it would be interesting to compare the sine waves, anyway.

BTW, I still remember that the "digital pulses" the PP2000 delivers as sine waves might actually have a "beneficial" effect on end use sound...


Best regards,
Paul S
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Bill
Kensington, NH
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Post #: 564
Post ID: 14434
Reply to: 14355
PP2000
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I've now been using three of the PP2000 now for 6 months and in that time There have been no further hiccups since one of the fuses went out. They are giving me the best musical enjoyment I've had from my system in 30 years of trying to cure my electrical gremlins.  thank you Romy for introducing me to them.

Bill Gaw
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beachbum
New Orleans area
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Post #: 565
Post ID: 14450
Reply to: 14434
PP2000
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Well i've been using this fine piece of equipment now for nearly 2 years with total satisfaction. My class D Nuforce SE V3 amps love the clean clear power. As i use my PP2000 for my whole system so does all other components in the audio chain. For the first time while listening to music today unknown to me i had a power failure and my PP2000 switched to battery mode and the music kept on flowing. I played 2 lps before the power came back on and i still had 64% left on the included battery. Man i love my PP2000



I Think the Volume needs to be Turned Up
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Trash your PP2000 and get yourself the Encabulator.
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"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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What to do next NOW with electricity.
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I am finishing us to setup my listening room and I have my PP2000 blowing up sometimes (go to protection bypass mode) when I use powerful SS amp for ULF along with Melquiades and the rest of the systems driver from one single PP2000. So, I guess I would need another PP2000, or perhaps PP3000 or perhaps to go as crazy as Bill when and to get 3 PP2000.
 
I kind of thinking about it as next week I will bring my electrician to do some work including to run a dedicated 8-6ga feed to the location where my PP2000 regenerator(s) will stay and to rest the halves of my 220V (VERY important). If I have one PP2000 then it might sit in equipment bay of my listening room, if I have 3 of the ten I would damp then in basement, right under the power amps. Ideally I would need 4 PP2000 – one for each power amp, one for front end and one for ULF amp. Sure in this case the PP200 shall have a remote trigger or a remote control to start them only what I need to play my playback. I am still contemplating how I might organize the things. Hypothetically the PP200 has a button on front panel to which I might make a wired remote trigger. But it is 2010 they shall come with voice recognition – I do not know if I want to open PP2000 and do anything it. I want to ride it not to educate myself how to feed the horse…
 
What I certain is that one PP2000 is not enough. I do not withdraw my motor-generator options but to do it with running capacitors is a very much half-ass solution and I do not like it. The right amount of run caps is a subject of load and I do not see myself add and remove caps as I turn my components on and off. From a different perspective to vest myself into 3-4 PP2000 and then bring rotary 3-phase converter and to learn that motor-generator does better sound is something that I would like also to avoid. I guess I need to have my playback back, to test the motor-generator and then decide if I will proceed with more PP2000. But how can I test the ULF quality if my PP2000 will not power it. Perhaps I would need in future when my motor-generator is ready to borrow one more PP2000…
 
Why all of it shall be so difficult? For a time being I have no idea what to ask my electrician to do next week…. 

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 568
Post ID: 14523
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How many PP2000 does a man need?
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Debating the everlasting Leo Tolstoy’s question “How Much Land Does a Man Need?”  I wondering how many and what kind PP I would need. I am debating options:  to get two more PP200 or one more PP3000. I wonder if anyone used two separate PP200 for right and left channels amps and made comparing to both right and left amps running from the same PP2000. If anyone has this specific experience and able to filter out from own assessment the fact that PP2000 will be more loaded in one case then in other, then please, share with me your findings.

Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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The regrettable fun
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That is funny and I kind of forgot how it is. Got home and plugged the SMS digital crossover into the chain of my new midbass horn. I sat to lie different crossover sloped. The bass from the midbass horn was like somebody hit me in face with a wet sponge.   I was wondering if the SMS digital toy such a crap that it destroy sound so mach. Well, from the fact that I placed this post in the given thread you have figured it out – I did not plug the SMS crossover to PP2000 and drove it from a wall, along with TV that is attached to SMS…. Bad, bad, bad Woburn electricity… Bad, bad, bad kitty, do not do it again….

Meow!


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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maxzimum
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Advert?
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Does PP pay you to make these random posts in praise of their products?

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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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I’m a highly corruptible pussy.
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 maxzimum wrote:
Does PP pay you to make these random posts in praise of their products?
They used to pay last year. They wired me $19.95 for each mentioning their company on my site. But since 2010 we agreed that it will be no more cash transaction as they were afraid that some diligent site readers like you will audit my bank account and will discover my true motivations. So, this year we switch from cash transactions to poultry. Now, for each mentioning of PP in positive context the send me a deep-fry chicken and for each measurement they I do they send me a roasted duck.

BTW, I am a highly corruptible person and I am looking to be solicited by some kind of cable manufacturer. I need a company that will do cable up to the level of my demands and I will be enthusiastically report about my   success to use their cables in exchange for a few bake in garlic portabella mushrooms… I am highly corruptible,  as you know, but my “services” are highly cheap… In my religion says: anything swallowable is not a sin….

Rgs, the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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beachbum
New Orleans area
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Post #: 572
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Well put kitty cat
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dont know if the posters comment was meant to sound negitave or positive about this thread and you. myself and countless others who use PP2000 because its performance and clean power is what our hifi systems love. PP2000 is delivering the power and those who believe there power supply is not up to snuff do your self a favor and get one. BTW i have no affiliation with PurePower in anyway and my system is purring with ample clean power meoooow.



I Think the Volume needs to be Turned Up
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Bill
Kensington, NH
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Reviewer bribes
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Glad to see there'sanother reviewer taking bribes. Why would we otherwise praise a piece of equipment to high heaven? I personally prefer free passes to porno sites, like Newegg.com,or music direct,where I can lust over all those hot to trot pieces of audiophilia.
Seriously, the PP units are the best addition Ive made to my system in years and have given it my product of the year award at enjoythemusic.com. I give silent thanks to Romy every time I listen to my gear for solving the electrical problem I've had for 30 years.
Anyone who doesn't at least try one of these units out in their system is wasting their time trying to improve it in any other way.
The old argument years ago about what's more important,the source or the speakers has been superseded by the need for pure electricity.

Bill
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Romy the Cat


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Again, about my hate of recommendations.
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I always hesitant to make recommendations regarding purchasing decision in audio. The last time I made a recommendation to a local audio guy was to get Altec 19 loudspeaker instead of the crap that he had.  The problem that you can make recommendation but Sound is not what equipment does but how you react upon the Sound. When I advised to look for Altec 19 I did said that it will be things that will need to be done with it. The guy clearly discarded my warning about the need to work with the Altec 19. He got the Altec 19, did not like them and I clearly saw it. So, felt that I need to buy the stupid Altec 19 from him for the price he paid (not dirt chip). As the result I was trying to be a nice guy and to “recommend” something but I ended with this piece of crap sitting in my room. Thankfully I have a big house where I can stupidly to accumulate this type of things… Do I really need them?  Absolutely not and the only reason I dog then from his hands because their finish is a good match to my new hardwood floors for my Opera Room….

It is not that I feel personal responsibility for recommendations. It rather that I know that recommendations in audio sometimes lead to far fetching consequences. People invent myths for themselves and then enslave them to those myths. The guys are saving and collecting money, hiding them from wifes and etc, sell old equipment to buy the recommended one. It is not only about money but about the expectations – people enslave themselves to own expectations that they purely artificially created in own head base upon somebody recommendations. I truly do not feel comfortable to be a part of this.

My discomfort is one thing but there is something else. I see no personal gratification to issues recommendations. How can I be gratified? If based upon my recommendation somebody would sell 1000 speakers or amplifiers then will it affect my ego in any way? Trust me, with all appeared problems with my ego I will be absolutely unaffected if some manufacturer would sell 10 units or 10000 units. The financial gratification is also is very questionable. Yes, I have opportunity to get from many manufactures discounted prices but there is absolutely no relation between the fact that they extend me discount and the fact that I comment positively or negatively on their products. I have a network of friendly to me distributor who buy sometimes some things for me, applying no dealer or distributor mark up. In some cases I buy used and in some cased I pay retail cost. The irony is that it is not truly important as I am not a reviewing house, I buy very seldom and in a large scale of the thing if I save let say 5 thousand dollars over a year on my audio then do you really feel that it would stimulate and motivate me? So far I do not remember me making money on audio…

So, the subject about PP and recommendations. I am not Bill.  I hardly can read some of his articles as they are very much products- centered and very much written in the “recommendation mode”. Still, would I recommend PP regenerator? I absolutely do not care. I am individualist and all the I care in audio is myself and my sonic results. The only gratification I have if 1000 people around me get PP is that it will be more PP users and the might discover new advanced ways to operate PP200 and I will be able to use their experience.  In practically it never happens and I am unfortunately feel that I am the most advanced PP2000 user that I know off. Bill for instance got 3 generators; I am planning to have the same 3 generators configuration. I did call him and asked his opinion about it. However, his and my playbacks are so drastically different and the way how we intend to use playback are so different that his experience of leaving with 3 generators was hardly applicable to me.

So, do I recommend PP2000? I kind of do not care. Someone might have no problems with electricity and someone has no brain to understand that he/she has problems. Well, all built out own playback for our own personal use and how the fact the PP2000 might or might fixed the problem in somebody house 3000 miles away would impact me? I absolutely do not care.  Will I recommend the PP2000? If you’re looking for my recommendation then it is too early for you to read my site.

The caT
 


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Wojtek
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Look what you have done to jack up pricess of vitavox (nobody was buying before your wistle) , Micro Seiki (gathering dust after Art Dudley wrote they bored the hell out of him) meittner dacs (suddenly the most musical in the market Wink Lamms (which all of the club members seem to own or aspire to own) One used to see used ortofon Jubilee every other day -nowadays ,nope like they discovered a second face of that cart-instead shelter 901 is poping out not to mention a steady stream of prized yesterday Koetsus. I'm ready to believe they left their dogs in charitable shelters and picked up cats and gained 50Lbs eating kosher sandwiches.I'm sure PP2000 sells like a hot cake...
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