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steverino
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Asking for trouble
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What happens if you make these changes and then you experience a bad electricity day?? You won't know whether the problem would have occurred anyway in the original setup..

You need to allow a sufficient time to elapse to verify that different conditions are not able to affect the system. I would say six months is necessary of trouble free operation since that will get you into the summer season. I indicated previously that I thought a separate drop was the only sure way to ensure isolation from the rest of the house. Good to hear that your initial results are positive.
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My version of CES stunt.
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A guy I know just went back from West cost and told me about his impression about the CES show he visited.  I told him that I am not at very high esteem about the manufactures who waste their money to participate in consumer shows and who chaise the idiot-reviewers in there in order to suck this dicks better then it was sucked in previous rooms. Regarding the sound  (and in context of this thread): sure no one is looking a good sound at CES but many of the room do not have good sound not only because many known reasons but also becomes the Vegas rooms have very bad electricity.

So, if I was an audio manufacture, for instance if I run the PurePower company, then I would do my version of CES stunt. The people at the show do not know that with PP3000 the sound they demonstrate in Vegas would be 231 times better. PurePower does not want to pay money to idiotic advertising and to sponsor the worthless rooms in Vegas. This is very understandable and in their please I would do the very same. However, having the product as that have and having the superbly simply demonstrable results that PP3000 is able to throw I would do the following:

1)      Introduce to the PurePower unto a damn bypass switch
2)      Make lat say 50 units, load them in truck and bring them to Vegas
3)      Tape the units with some kind of spongy pads to protect them from damage.
4)      During the first 3 days what the show is close to public walk around the room and offer the PurePower units to loan for free to the end of the show. Do not ask to advertise in the room that fact that PurePower was used just let the room owner to use it if they feel it helps to sound.
5)      Collects the units after the show from whoever let the units go, and go home

So, what does it mean? The PurePower spent virtually nothing: just cost of shipping. In response he would get a stunning jolt of reputation as a company that advanced the tangible and confirmable result of entire industry. It is not a big deal that consumers at the show will not know that PurePower units were used.  The manufactures will and the will advised to own customers to use the PurePower with their own equipment - this is very powerful incentive, much more powerful than anybody ealse recommendation.

Rgs,
Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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steverino
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Romy is far too modest
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Romy said "then I would do my version of CES stunt.During the first 3 days what the show is close to public walk around the room and offer the PurePower units to loan for free.. The people at the show do not know that with PP3000 the sound they demonstrate in Vegas would be 231 times better..."

Romy, Even you do not believe that the Pure Power device is a panacea. If you did you wouldn't have spent thousands of dollars , hundreds of hours and hundreds of posts here trying to figure out why it didn't work properly straight out of the box. I'm not saying that it didn't do some positive things; just that there were many issues. You took a promising device and spent a hell of a lot of time and effort figuring out how to operationalize it (make it work outside the lab). How could they remotely duplicate at a hotel what you did ??

Second, high-end vendors think of their products as their BABY. It may look funny but it's their baby. Now imagine you went up to proud parents and said "Hey your kid doesn't look that marvelous. But if you stand him/her under this special light that I  have right here then your kid will look fabulous."

Third high-end vendors don't want people to think that their product requires any help or improvement above whatever compromised tincan they have tried to market.. Look at all the tube amp vendors who stick the world's worst tubes into their audition units. They want you to buy the more expensive tin can in their product line not some other guys tin can. You have devoted dozens of posts to that very topic.

 Fourth it's entirely possible that the Pure Power unit will reveal how lousy their audio show system is. Haven't we all had the experience of sticking some better component into the system and suddenly hearing more bad stuff? That applies even to LPs and CDs. As my system improved it changed my opinion of what recordings were good or bad.


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Romy the Cat


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I was called with all names but I never was called too modest
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 steverino wrote:
Romy, Even you do not believe that the Pure Power device is a panacea. If you did you wouldn't have spent thousands of dollars , hundreds of hours and hundreds of posts here trying to figure out why it didn't work properly straight out of the box. I'm not saying that it didn't do some positive things; just that there were many issues. You took a promising device and spent a hell of a lot of time and effort figuring out how to operationalize it (make it work outside the lab). How could they remotely duplicate at a hotel what you did ??
Steverino, you are very wrong with it. I did not do anything with Pure Power device. Yes, I spend a lot of time and efforts with the PurePower idea but as the result I have more or less stably performing electricity in my room. Is it absolute solution and could it be better? Of course it could but do you know a one that could be brought in my house by UPS man? I wish know it myself…

Regarding the rest of your comments: whatever you say but the electricity in Vegas is not good. The last CES that I did was I think 2005 and it was very clean purely electrical event. The few rooms hat I selected to myself did sound in one way at 10-11am but after lathe the sound in the room was absolutely flipped and turned very ugly with very heavy gray grain – a typical electrical problem...


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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clarkjohnsen
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Moreover...
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...exhibitors often do not have the time to spare to try a new device that may or may not improve their performance. In fact their systems rarely perform well even up to their lax standards, on the first day.

That said, I well recall the years when Barry Kohan brought a selection of isolation devices (Brightstar Audio) around on a Radio Flyer and offered them to exhibitors. He must have gotten into four dozen rooms as they seemed to be everywhere. And his business grew into a powerhouse after two or three years of that merchandising.

As to the "their baby" argument, too many exhibitors are indeed like that, but an at least equal number are open (anyway in theory) to such things. Heck, there was a time when people didn't even care about cables, and now...

For years and years I've told the guys to do whatever's needed to sound good, and if they have to hide some sort of isolation or power scrubber or what have you, do it! And if you're discovered, no one will blame you because those hotels have so many problems!

Romy: "Open to the public" or not, the public and the reviewers are there every day of the show.

clark
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steverino
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Ok romy you are not modest just forgetful
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Dear Romy,

 I didn't say you bought another device to compensate for Pure Power, I said you spent time effort and money to operationalize it in your system with new dedicated linee, rejiggering positions of audio components, using isolation transformers between the Pure Power and the component etc.

I promise I won't call you modest again.
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Romy the Cat


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PP3000 and power cords.
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The topic is absolutely idiotic but it is what it is. For the last week I was trying alternative power cords for my PP3000. Not that I was looking for some kind of different sound but I was trying a heavy shielded power cord with 30A power receptacle.  You will be very surprised but with this power cord I got some HF harshness and some flattens in upper midrange. It turned out that that stock PurePower’s power cord was WAY better. Now, why the power cord BEFORE the regenerator might make any difference is beyond me but it is what it is. The story of Albert Einstein and a horseshoe over his door comes to my mind…


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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steverino
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Electricity comes from other planets
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This goes back to the discussion a few weeks ago of what these components' power supplies are "expecting" to see. They were built and tested with certain kinds of AC waveforms as input. If you give it something it was never tested with, the design may not optimally deal with it.  Remember my experience with a balun and the VPI SDS.The balun placed between the wall and the SDS messed up the sound almost exactly in the way you describe. The balun placed after the SDS and before the turntable motor produced noticeable improvements in clarity and depth.
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clarkjohnsen
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WHY?
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Why hasn't all this been understood and resolved?! Here we are in the 21st Century... we know everything there is to know about audio... and yet...
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N-set
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Baloon
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 steverino wrote:
This goes back to the discussion a few weeks ago of what these components' power supplies are "expecting" to see. They were built and tested with certain kinds of AC waveforms as input. If you give it something it was never tested with, the design may not optimally deal with it.  Remember my experience with a balun and the VPI SDS.The balun placed between the wall and the SDS messed up the sound almost exactly in the way you describe. The balun placed after the SDS and before the turntable motor produced noticeable improvements in clarity and depth.


I don't know if you've noticed my post, but the baloon story after the synthesiser may have  a very direct explanation.
A step towards testing  my hypothesis it is to try to steal a good spectrum anal-yzer and see
the spectrum of the synthesiser output with and without the baloon. Can you do it?
Cheers,
nset



Cheers,
Jarek
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steverino
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Response to romy's post
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NSET,

 My comment you reference was in response to a post by Romy a month or two ago on this thread. He mentioned that he had put an isolation transformer before and after his PP3000 and had gotten different sonic effects depending on the position. If I had T&E equipment I would run the test for the sake of curiosity, but since I don't I didn't. Perhaps Romy hooked up the scope when he did his own test.  Regards.
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N-set
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The point with balun
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Steverino, this is not the point who responded to whom and how.
The point is that in your particular example: a balun (HF isolation tranny)
placed after a (presumably) digital power oscillator the explanation of better
sonics might perhaps be reliably tested. Again, a possibility I've been thinking of
is that perhaps the digital power synthesis of SDS is not cleaned well enough and balun helps
getting rid of digital noise. A scope will not help here, also IIRC ROmy doe not use
any digital power synthesis for powering his TT.
My motivation for taking this point here and getting so interested in your particular experience
is that I'm cooking myself a digital 3-phase power oscillator for powering my EMT and the problem of
digital noise and it's propagation on the surrounding equipment
has been on my mind. I don't know how SDS synthesizes power, but I took it seriously and commisioned
an uC controller with a 16bit synthesis of the power sine. Perhaps a massive overkill butt all those
digital toys are insanely cheap and easy to programm. The first results are promissing, with low harmonics.

Cheers,
N-set








Cheers,
Jarek
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steverino
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Everythings riding the line for free
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NSET,

  Sorry for any confusion. It seems clear from Romy's experiences and others that the electrical line is a transportation system that lets everything ride for free to any station and back. Yes the SDS uses a quartz crystal oscillator and digital components and almost certainly dumps (a small amount) of noise up the line. But think about it. That noise travels only to the turntable motor not the signal path. This is in clear contrast to the power supplies of audio amplifiers etc.  The improvevent by isolating the noise was not the same as the improvement wrought by the SDS controller itself. The SDS improves pitch stability and transient definition. However inserting the balun produced changes of soundstage depth and overall clarity more similar to those found by using it with pre and power amps. Thus somehow the noise must travel to the turntable motor and then get picked up by the cartridge or tonearm cable. It seems clear that the default assumption is bi directional isolation of every component is advantageous unless Empirically found not necessary or harmful.

I don't have sufficient expertise  to usefully conduct the kinds of tests you are contemplating. But it is not clear at least to me what precise tests are most valid and required. After all Romy has sometimes found audible differences without seeing anything with his test equipment. I hope you and others can test this out and determine more precisely what is going on in the line After it passes through the first component from the wall..  Most people are just going to have to test empirically the isolation of Every component no matter where it is. Regards, Steverino
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Good one, steverino
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It says everything, yet it says nothing!
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steverino
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Nothing
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Clark,

  How sad that I didn't know this "nothing" 15 years ago (including yes the effects of polarity and phase), but I'm always the last to know.

  And how strange that following the logic of this "nothing" (and this thread) has suggested a number of concrete actions that have significantly improved the sound of my system at very modest cost.
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Apologies if you took it wrong
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I thought I was being droll, echoing an old Chinese proverb.

Anyway, I'M usually the last one to know...

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Nothingness & somethingness
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 clarkjohnsen wrote:
It says everything, yet it says nothing!
That was exactly my impression too Big Smile
I've proposed a concrete mechanism as to why in the particular context a particular solution
works and a concrete way to test it.
Cheers,
Nset


Cheers,
Jarek
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Do you want to be my neighbor?
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That is very interesting. I have a distortion miter plugged all time into my power lines and he last 2-3 days it went out of reservation. Literally it goes absolutely crazy suggesting the there is huge amount of noise in the lines. I did check the meter and confirmed that it is not broker but I did not look further into the power lines. The sound all more or less all right but I wonder what has champagne in the power grid that suddenly my house got so much noise. I did not make any change in my electrical environment and no one built recently a huge manufacturing plant in my town. I wonder what it might be.   If I have time tonight then I would like to shot down everything in my house, literally take everything off line to see if it make any difference and I will try to encourage my neighbors to do the same. For sure I will not use my neighbors as some kind of electricity hostages but I wools like to try isolated what was reason for this huge ongoing spike of noise during the last 3 days.

The Cat


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steverino
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Special goggles
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Remember those old horror flicks where the scientist would invent special goggles or a viewer and then start to see Things That Should Never Be Seen.

Have you taken a look at your power company website? It's entirely possible that they are doing something to "improve" the line. As was posted here about a year ago, the power companies are putting all kinds of (digital) monitors and regulators on-line. They usually are proud of their latest muckups.Then when Romy turns on the amp the power company will send him an email to limit playing time to 30 minutes.

The important question that "enquiring" minds want to know is whether the sonics changed in your system during this attack?
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Smart Grid
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Some time ago I mentioned that the nation is converting to what the power companies call the "Smart Grid".  I have not bothered to check the specifics, but I know it involves "digital" meters and metering that "talk to the mother ship".  Here, it's a fait acompli, but other areas will conform, eventually.  They say it has to do with "meeting peak demands", but it also appears to "conserve" whenever possible.  Like I said back when, both the worst and the best electricity (for hi-fi) seem to be behind us.



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…after 9 hours….
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Interesting, I home today and there was no distortions in the line. At 6 am, when I left at work it was truly disaster, the distortion tester as out of any imaginary boundaries. At 3 pm the line was clean like it has to be. I wonder what it might be. Is it possible the power companies run their smart grid data only periodically when they need to read meters in given location? Still, it has not take 3 days but  might be done foe a few seconds…


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Optimists
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"Like I said back when, both the worst and the best electricity (for hi-fi) seem to be behind us."

The best days for sure. but given the distaste for electrical generation facilities and ever increasing on-line devices, certainly not the worst.
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The problems with Smart Grids
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The problems with Smart Grids

by B. Blake Levitt and Chellis Glendinning

How is it that so many intelligent, inside-the-beltway environmentalists are buying into an eco-health-safety-finance debacle with the potential to increase energy consumption, endanger the environment, harm public health, diminish privacy, make the national utility grid more insecure, cause job losses, and make energy markets more speculative?

Answer: by not doing their homework.

Welcome to the Smart Grid -- a government-funded money machine capable of intruding into every aspect of our lives. Smart Grid technologies -- initially funded to the tune of $3.4 billion through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 and slated to cost $11 billion through 2011 -- are enough to make even die-hard liberals demand a claw back of misspent tax dollars.

On the surface, Smart Grids sound ‘green’ -- with promises of saving energy, creating new power-line corridors run on wind and solar, way-stations to power-up electric vehicles, energy-efficient upgrades to an aging power infrastructure, and real-time customer knowledge of electricity use.

And there’s the enticing communications factor: a nationwide high-speed broadband information technology barreling down high-tension electric corridors called Broadband-Over-Power-Lines (BPL). What could be more perfect for communicating facts about the planet, funding enviro-candidates, pushing legislation, and organizing Earth Days?

But few who actually study how these new systems function want anything to do with them. Other than those who stand to make enormous profits and the physicists or engineers who dream up such stuff, Smart Grids are giving knowledgeable people the willies.

What Is a Smart Grid?

These days the word “smart” is attached to anything even marginally digital -- and indeed it’s an effective marketing tool because who wants anything dumb?

But is the Smart Grid really smart?

The problem: smart metering will turn every single appliance into the equivalent of a transmitting cell phone, and this at a time when public concern about the safety of exposure to the radiofrequency radiation (RF) of wireless technologies is on the rise. Heads up: that’s every dishwasher, microwave oven, stove, washing machine, clothes dryer, air conditioner, furnace, refrigerator, freezer, coffee maker, TV, computer, printer, and fax machine.

The average U.S. home has over 15 such appliances, each of which would be equipped with a transmitting antenna. While older models can be retrofitted, General Electric (GE) and other appliance manufacturers are already putting transmitters into their latest designs, and the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) is already giving out tax credits.

Meanwhile, people who don’t want to use such appliances won't be able to deactivate the wireless component without disabling it and voiding warranties. Citing “electricity theft,” it could also be illegal to do so.

Yet, not one safety concern regarding the cumulative effects of 24/7 exposure to RF radiation seems to have occurred to the backers of Smart Grids. And this is despite the fact that all appliances will transmit wireless data with peak power bursts far above current safety standards - at frequencies between 917 MHz and 3.65 GHz in the ultra-high frequency/microwave ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum, several times a minute.

And that’s just the indoor part. All transmitters inside your home or office will communicate with a Smart Meter attached to the outside of each building. * [See note at bottom of text] That meter, in turn, will transmit at an even higher frequency to a central hub installed in local neighborhoods. In what are called “mesh networks,” signals can also be bounced from house-meter to house-meter before reaching the final hub. So exposures will not just be from your own meter, but accumulating from possibly 100-to-500 of your neighbors’ as well.

That’s a hefty barrage of radiation.

Some gas, water, and electric utilities are now using such smart networks, each with its own metering system and separate exposures -- creating a multi-frequency wall of radiation that, in the history of living creatures, is unheard of.

In addition, the meters and the antennas will act as transceivers, allowing both you via mobile phone or computer -- and take note: your utility company -- to remotely control your appliances. According to Jenny Anderson and Julie Creswell writing in the New York Times, one such system in the Midwest already allows the utility to cycle furnaces and air conditioners on and off every 15 minutes, with the stated purpose to reduce peak-loads on electric grids.

On closer scrutiny, Smart Grids look like another Build-It-Now-Deal-With-The-Consequences-Later fiasco. At a time when health concerns about the safety of cell phones, antennas, and Wi-Fi hotspots are mounting around the globe, Smart Grids will require literally billions of new transmitters, each pumping “electrosmog” into the environment -- for which there will be no mitigation, no conscientious objection, and no escape.


We Already Know a Lot about RF and the Environment

Living creatures are fantastically sensitive to low-level, non-ionizing radiation that includes everything from visible light to the earth’s natural electromagnetic fields.

Birds, butterflies, fish, marine mammals, bees, and other insects are particularly sensitive to the earth’s natural electromagnetic background, using it to guide their migrations, sense of direction, circadian rhythms, food-finding, and reproductive activities. Soil bacteria are also tuned to the natural currents of the planet.



But human-made radiation creates different exposures -- with unusual signaling characteristics like digital pulsing, phased array and saw-tooth waveforms, and at much higher power intensities than anything found in nature. RF is actually a form of energetic air pollution -- and if air were legally considered “habitat” like water and land, RF might be regulated differently.

Studies show that myriad wildlife abandons terrain when cell towers are installed. Cows have increased cancers, lower milk production, agitation [see Electromagnetic Fields], immune system disorders, more mastitis, miscarriages, and birth defects in offspring near cell towers. Birds with nests near antennas display lower reproductive rates, and chicks are born with birth defects. In simulations of whole colony collapse disorder, bees have disappeared entirely when transmitting cell phones were placed next to their hives. It is thought that RF interferes with their navigational abilities by coupling with a natural magnetic material called magnetite in bee abdomens.

Meanwhile, hundreds of studies done with laboratory animals found numerous cancers, immune disorders, and increased mortality from chronic, low-level exposures. This body of work should make us ponder the accuracy of the data -- and humaneness -- when biologists attach RF transmitters to elk, marine mammals, big cats, and other species to study them.

Trees also endure die-back near towers. Whole forests near broadcast antennas in Europe have suffered. Military-weapons designers have long used treetops with high moisture content as waveguides for missiles.

Some of this work goes back six decades in bioelectromagnetics and biophysics journals -- and is available for any curious environmentalist to see.

… and We Know about RF and Humans

Research on RF and human health dates to the 1940s when World War II’s radar revealed infertility and cataracts in military personnel.

David O. Carpenter, MD, MPH, is the director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at the State University of New York at Albany, School of Public Health. Along with EMF/RF consultant Cindy Sage in California, he co-edited the 2007 BioInitiative Report, which calls for significantly more stringent RF exposure standards than now exist.

Environmentalists may know Dr. Carpenter, who blew the whistle on PCB contamination in farm-raised salmon. He is also an expert on the biological effects of electromagnetic fields. To him, the decade-long, 13-country World Health Organization’s 2010 Interphone Study confirms what previous reports and many experts have been saying all along: RF exposures at current levels are already unsafe.

According to Interphone, talking on a cell phone for 1,640 hours over a 10-year period -- the equivalent of 30 minutes a day -- increases an adult’s risk of malignant glioma brain cancer by 40%.

“While this [Interphone] study is not perfect,” Dr. Carpenter said, “it should serve as a warning to governments that the deployment of new wireless technologies may bring risks to the public that are widespread, involuntary, and increase long-term health care costs.”

His assessment ipso facto includes Smart Grids.

Over 70 studies have found effects at frequencies with very low-power intensity, many with implications for human health. Fifteen studies report effects among people living 50-to-1500 feet from a cell tower -- including cancers, immune system effects, fertility problems, heart arrhythmias, miscarriages, sleeplessness, dizziness, concentration difficulties, memory loss, headaches, skin rashes, lowered libido, fatigue, and malaise.

And many of these symptoms mirror what some people are reporting within days of Smart Meters installed at their homes.

In addition, several studies report increases in the permeability of the blood-brain barrier, which protects brain tissue from bacteria, viruses, and toxins. One study found increases in stress markers in human saliva near cell towers. Also reported are calcium ion changes in cells -- with implications for the ability to metabolize. Other studies link exposures to Alzheimer’s, Lou Gehrig Disease, and Parkinson’s.

In fact, every system of the body appears to be sensitive to low-level electromagnetic fields -- and why not? Living cells are electromagnetic systems.

Research by Magda Havas, Ph.D., of Trent University in Canada, and U.S. epidemiologist Samuel Milham, M.D., links something called “dirty electricity” with diabetes, malignant melanoma, and cancers of the breast, thyroid, uterus and lung. Dirty electricity is an industry term that describes a multi-frequency exposure when higher frequencies like RF couple with the lower frequencies running along power lines. BPL (Broadband-Over-Power-Lines) is 100% dirty electricity -- that’s how it functions -- and people barraged by it can now measure RF radiation emanating from their light sockets.

Of special concern are people with implanted medical devices like deep-brain stimulators for Parkinson’s, some pacemakers, insulin pumps, and in-home hospital equipment. The radiofrequency interference (RFI) inherent to Smart Grids can cause such equipment to go haywire, or even to stop. And RFI from ambient exposures has caused wheelchairs to go off peers or into traffic; automatic ignition switches in cars refuse to start until cars are towed to RF-free blocks; and surgical beds have jumped during operations.

RFI is also suspected in sudden acceleration of automobiles.

Low I.Q. for Smart Grids and Government

Think of the static on your radio. Now imagine Smart Grid’s multiple frequencies overlapping with animate objects … like your brain. The UHF used in Smart Grids couples best with brain tissue.

Several federal agencies actually do have a stake in RF safety, but the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) standards are the only ones in effect in the U.S. A major problem is that the FCC regulates only short-term, acute, high-intensity, thermal effects in humans, while no criteria exist to protect wildlife.

And there’s more. FCC standards only regulate for whole-body exposure, not for specific organs -- like brain tissue which absorbs energy differently. Plus, FCC allowances are averaged over 30 minutes. With Smart Grids such time-averaging makes the peak pulses that blast for a fraction of a second when first activated vanish on paper.

These are holes through which the Queen Mary could sail.

According to Richard Tell, an electrical engineer formerly with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) -- in a 2008 report on Smart Grids for Hydro One Networks, Inc./Toronto -- antennas on appliances may transmit at a density of .18watts, each at ballpark 4.5 seconds per hour. But external meters on houses transmit at around 1 watt at less than 2 minutes per hour.

Such figures may sound low -- until the use of many appliances at the same time and exposures from the neighbors’ meters is lumped in. Nowhere in utility estimates are such peak pulses factored -- which, Tell has said, can be 20 times higher or more.

Still, he notes, the radiation from Smart Meters is 15,000 times lower than what FCC standards allow.

Too, the industry claims that meters transmit every four hours -- but engineers like Stephen Scott of EMF Services/California measure spikes every few seconds, especially from banks of meters attached to housing and office complexes, while others have measured firing between 9-and-15 times a minute.

Utilities don’t release numbers for peak pulses, but one estimate by Southern California Edison -- since voided for P.R. reasons -- puts peak pulses at 229,000 microwatts per square centimeter at eight inches from the transmitter. That means if you sleep next to a wall with a smart appliance on the other side, strong UHF signals could be spiking several times a minute all night long -- right into your brain.

Compare that to cell phones that emit approximately 250-to-300 microwatts per square centimeter when placed directly against the head.

Vampires and Cyber Attackers Make the Honor Roll

For decades, knowledgeable environmentalists have advised people with remote-control appliances to unplug them because of “vampire” energy. Plugged-in remotes are never completely “OFF”; otherwise they wouldn’t be able to receive the signal to turn back “ON.”

So what will happen to our aggregate energy use when all appliances become smart vampires? No proponents thought to ask that question.

Though supposedly “secure,” Smart Grids can be penetrated by both wired and wireless networks. In August of 2009, hackers robbed 179,000 Toronto Hydro customers’ names, addresses, and billing information from their e-billing accounts. Security consultant Mike Davis of IOActive, Inc/Seattle has shown how easy it is to install computer worms that can take over the whole grid, and such worms can be programmed to alter billing information, gather information on electricity use for sale to third parties, or shut down hundreds of thousands of households.

Ross Anderson and Shailendra Fuloria at Cambridge University’s Computer Laboratory note that hostile government agencies or terrorist organizations could bring whole countries to their knees by interrupting electrical generation. More so than traditional grids, they stress that Smart Grids create a new strategic vulnerability as the cyber equivalent of a nuclear attack. Smart Grids are also easy to sabotage with simple jamming devices.

And if the problems aren’t human-created, nature could step in. The sun’s normal 11-year sunspot cycle -- ramping up right now, promising to pump sporadic blasts of electromagnetic energy toward earth -- could wreak chaos upon Smart Grids.

Dumb: Privacy Gone, Liability Shifted, Billing Errors Galore

Privacy is an issue as well. When the utility company records home energy use in real time -- with data held at a central hub, potentially accessible from a hacker’s laptop –- the knowledge that you are not home becomes available.

Plus, do you really want the utilities remotely controlling your appliances?

And what about liability? Although grid engineers claim the systems are encrypted, encryption often fails. Imagine the utility -- or even a passing cell-phone user -- inadvertently turning on your oven when you’re on vacation. Or shutting off the furnace on a subzero night. For insurance purposes, who is liable? What about civil rights violations? Or the legal ramifications of a utility partnering with the police?

In the purest sense, Smart Grids offer new opportunities for electronic trespass.

Then there are the billing errors. Some customers in California have seen their bills triple -- from $200/month to $600 -- when Smart Meters were installed. After a class action suit was filed against Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E), that utility admitted that 23,000 of their Smart Meters “might” be defective, though they denied they were responsible for the billing errors.


Dumb is as Dumb Does

Smart systems can wreak havoc with electronics too. People are complaining of ceiling fans turning on in the middle of the night, speeds spontaneously changing, paddles reversing direction, and circuit boards burning up. A few meters have exploded. Others have fried electronics. Fires have started. In New Zealand firefighters report 422 fires in 2010 involved with Smart Meters.

Oddly, given such dire safety issues, neither U.S. utilities nor their experts seem capable of answering simple questions. At a public forum in Sebastopol in 2010, PG&E pulled its speakers when they didn’t get the format they wanted -- all questions in writing and in advance. Then, at a subsequent gathering, PG&E sent two experts -- Michael Herz and Leeka Kheifets -- neither of whom knew how often meters send or repeat RF signals, called the “duty cycle.” The two could not answer what the exposure would be for an apartment complex with banks of multiple meters, nor answer technical questions about peak-signal strength. And they didn't know the make or model of the meters so that people in the audience could look up the information.

One Sebastopol activist, Sandi Maurer, said in frustration: “How can we trust a company to deploy such a massive RF installation on every home, if they can’t even answer basic safety questions?”

But not all utilities are rushing forward. In 2010 Dominion Virginia Power delayed a $600-million program because Virginia’s State Corporation Commission questioned its economic wisdom, noting that the savings to ratepayers would be less than the rate increases needed to pay for the build-out. Hydro One/Canada came to the same conclusion in 2007, and last year lawmakers in the Netherlands struck down a bill that would have made Smart Meters mandatory. The U.K. is reconsidering a smart metering system as well, and in 2009 the European Parliament ordered member states to study the economic feasibility of Smart Grids.

Electricity = Big Bucks

All the while private, largely unregulated hedge funds have been entering energy markets, betting on the potential financial bonanza. It’s the big players who stand to profit, of course -- with your tax dollars going to the likes of GE, IBM, Siemens, Intel, Texas Instruments, AT&T, Verizon, Motorola, and other behemoths.

GE is the largest manufacturer of Smart Meters in the world. It has signed contracts with CenterPoint Energy and Grid Net to deploy WiMax-enabled radios for use in Smart Meters. WiMax is the fourth generation network that was earmarked by the FCC and the Obama administration to bring wireless Internet to rural areas -- so clearly the technologies are moveable pieces, depending on who owns the chessboard.

But it’s the taxpayer-customer who gets the double whammy: underwriting the infrastructure via tax dollars; enduring rate hikes and medical bills -- and then there’s the burden of having to buy new appliances.

Plus, for citizens, real-time metering reveals when you wake up, go to work, make dinner, do the laundry, use the computer, go on vacation. While proponents see real-time knowledge in the hands of consumers as a form of empowerment, they ignore the gorilla-in-the-room: tiered pricing. Today, many utilities set flat, state-regulated rates for kilowatt hours, but tiered pricing will change that.

Critics say that tiered pricing penalizes the elderly, self-employed, unemployed, homemakers, and those with small children -- all of whom use more energy during the day. But a darker possibility exists: a utility could create special billing tiers just for you. In other words, if you work the evening shift and cook dinner at midnight, your rate could be highest when everyone else’s is lowest.

Then there’s mandatory shut-offs for people who don’t pay their utility bills -- after which the unfortunate customer will have to buy a prepaid wireless-enacted electric meter like a prepaid phone card. Fantasy? Such a system was enacted in South Africa in the 1990s.

Inside-the-Beltway Enviros

Before the Obama administration even took office, their pre-transition coordinator for climate and energy policy, Carol Browner, met with IBM CEO Sam Palmisano.

Browner was the director of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under Clinton and is now Obama’s coordinator for climate and energy policy, while IBM has worked with the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation think-tank in DC to develop three focus areas: increased broadband access, digitized medical records, and Smart Grids.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Palmisano told Browner that a $10 billion investment was needed to jumpstart Smart Grids. Palmisano also claimed that Smart Grids would create 239,000 new jobs -- with half of those resulting from start-up businesses. But his promise was not computed against the jobs lost, such as hundreds of thousands of unemployed meter readers. Nor did he consider the fact that new information technologies are typically seen as a way to consolidate through fewer employees.

Other former Clinton Administration officials on board for Smart Grids include Al Gore -- because of supposed lower carbon emissions -- and Reed Hundt, chairman of the FCC in the 1990s when that agency championed massive auctions of the public airwaves for cell-phone technology.

Hundt went on to become co-founder of Frontline Wireless and Sigma Networks. Sitting on several corporate communications company boards, including Intel and China Telecom, he is also co-chairman of the Coalition for the Green Bank, a capital-raising nonprofit that is lobbying Congress for more Smart Grid money -- through environment committees in Congress.

The Food and Drug Administration and FCC have a stake in Smart Grids, as do the EPA and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS). But neither EPA nor FWS has the funding or manpower to address the RF effects of Smart Grids or consider the effects of a new infusion of radiation into the environment.

U.S. Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar has oversight over FWS. Salazar was a U.S. Senator (D-CO, 2005-to-2009) before he left to join Obama. He was also Colorado’s Attorney General from 1999 to 2005 and gets low grades from environmentalists as one of a handful of Democrats to vote against setting limits on offshore drilling and global warming.

And he is no stranger to RF politics. A go-around on RF’s health and environmental effects raged from 2000 to 2006 in Colorado. At issue was a high-definition TV tower to be erected on Lookout Mountain near Denver, overlooking a community already burdened by one of the country’s largest antenna farms. After rancorous public hearings, the county board voted against the new tower. But Salazar attached a midnight rider to another bill right before Christmas recess pre-empting local decision makers.

Steven Chu is Obama’s Secretary of Energy -- the agency from which Smart Grids originate.
He is former director of the DOE’s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and professor of Physics and Molecular Cell Biology at the University of California. He has also held positions at Stanford University and AT&T Bell Laboratories -- all of which develop/deploy RF technologies. He is now Obama’s Secretary of Energy, and in 2009 Chu issued a statement telling the states to take the federal stimulus money and not stand in the way of Smart Grids.

But perhaps the biggest lack of intelligence lies in the energy and environment committees of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate. Smart Grid legislation first passed in 2007 as part of the Energy Independence and Security Act under the Bush administration. Additional legislation was contained in the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 at the House Committee on Energy & Environment, formerly chaired by Henry Waxman (D-CA). A companion bill was in the Senate., while in 2010 twelve bills were considered, some of which were revived in 2011. Everyone, including the Committee of Environment and Public Works -- formerly chaired by Barbara Boxer (D-CA) with a grid-related subcommittee chaired by Bernard Sanders (I-VT) -– has had a hand in Smart Grids.

Now some Republicans, especially Tea Party activists who view Smart Grids as massive big government intrusion, may be fighting Smart Grid proposals -– a situation that is creating an odd alliance between the extreme right and left-leaning activists who find themselves on the same side.

Smart Grids -- Boondoggle or Economic Stimulus?

2010’s federal appropriations for Smart Grids was $11 billion. But some financial analysts say it will take over $900 billion over the next two decades to upgrade high-tension lines, meters, central control facilities, and substations. In addition, they say to truly digitize and digitalize grids, it will cost hundreds of billions more, into 2030, because every utility’s computer network will need to be upgraded, new renewable-energy sources will be needed to plug into new access points, and recharging stations and power lines will need to be built. Proponents brag that the construction will be a bonanza.

But Smart Grids may be little more than a Trojan Horse donned in a “green” hat. After all the government mandates and stimulus money for Smart Grids, a veritable gold rush ensued -- with utility companies, hedge funds, meter vendors, patent owners, and colossi like Google and Verizon vying for taxpayer bucks.

In fact, few jobs were created.

Ironically, environmentalists are also pushing for Smart Grids without studying the environmental/health impacts or even calculating if such systems will save energy. Plus, provisions in the stimulus package exempt Smart Grids from National Environmental Policy Act review and allow federal preemption for siting new high-tension corridors through environmentally sensitive areas.

But the biggest enviro-irony is that most Smart Meter models don’t “run backwards”; if you install solar panels or other renewable-energy sources and want to sell energy back to the grid, without very expensive additional equipment the new metering makes that impossible.

People Are Getting Smart

Connecticut Light and Power is currently petitioning the Department of Public Utility Control to allow Smart Meters to be placed on 1.2 million homes, over the objections of the state’s Attorney General George Jepsen. A pilot program of 10,000 such meters found no energy savings in 2009, he said, but would cost ratepayers $500 million.

Maine has begun a statewide Smart Grid project -- over citizen opposition. Smart Grids already exist in parts of Virginia, Florida, Texas, New Mexico, and the Midwest, while PG&E in California has installed several million meters on homes and businesses; 73% of buildings in Alameda County already have them. As of June 1, 2010, the California Public Utilities Commission reports 2,000 health-related and 1,500 non-health-related complaints. The PG&E executive in charge of the Smart Meter program, William Devereaux, was discovered infiltrating activist groups opposed to Smart Grids. He was fired, and the utility admitted to monitoring online groups to track their strategies.

California customers continue to sign petitions, organize calling campaigns, form neighborhood groups, hold forums, throw protests, get arrested for blocking utility trucks from neighborhoods, petition legislators, sue the state, and threaten to go off the grid. Many communities have called for ‘opt-out’ campaigns, insisting that PG&E allow old meters to remain or be wired to phone lines thereby avoiding the RF component. Over 30 communities, including several large counties have now passed either resolutions or actual ordinances banning Smart Meters and the number grows daily.

In 2010 Assemblyman Jared Huffman (D-San Rafael) requested that the California Council on Science and Technology (CCST) evaluate health effects. CCST issued a report in January, 2011, giving an “all-clear” that ignited more citizen anger. Experts who had been asked to contribute to the report later said that the report’s conclusions were not supported by the evidence presented and that their input was ignored. Marin County Supervisor Charles McGlashan has called for state hearings -- with his county board declaring that the state should shut down all Smart Meters until billing, health, and safety issues are resolved. It was recently discovered that Smart Meters aren’t even Underwriters Laboratory (UL) certified -- something required under most state codes.

High I.Q.’s in Europe

In 2007, Germany's Environment Ministry issued a warning to German citizens to avoid wireless technology when possible and return to cabled means of communication. The French national library banned Wi-Fi in libraries when librarians became ill. And the European Environmental Agency called for action to reduce public exposure to radiation from mobile phones, Wi-Fi, Wi-Max, and other antennas.

In 2008 the European Parliament proposed publicly displayed maps of RF-contaminated areas so people could avoid them, while the U.K.’s Association of Teachers and Lecturers came out against Wi-Fi in classrooms.

Sweden has declared some beaches and public buildings RF-free areas where cell phones and wireless computers cannot be used so that people with electromagnetic hypersensitivity -- a form of environmental allergy that Sweden classifies as a functional disability -- can take a breather from contamination.

Individuals have also rallied. Spanish activists hold an annual International Day Against Electromagnetic Pollution. British and Irish citizens have taken to civil disobedience, bulldozing down cell towers. And Israelis have torn down cell towers with their bare hands and chased landlords who lease rooftops to tower companies through the streets.

All the while, a truly intelligent way to help an aging infrastructure does exist. Using closed cables, fiber optic boasts no environmental RF exposures, no dirty electricity, is resistant to sabotage and weather disruptions, and provides TV and high-speed Internet. For $11 billion, the U.S. could bring fiber optic to every home just as Japan has done.

And some towns aren’t waiting. Chattanooga, Tennessee already has a municipally owned fiber optic network. The community of Dunnellon, Florida is proposing a fiber-optic system for every home and business -- without increasing taxes. Meanwhile, Google is seeking prototype communities for a fiber-optic system that could possibly be licensed for utility metering. Unfortunately, Google has also wandered into wireless smart metering too.

The fact is: Smart Grids are dumb. Given known biological effects of RF -- together with the use of financial resources better spent on true sustainability -- this new roll-out adds yet another threat to the planet.

But, in this current stampede toward everything “green,” many environmentalists are flunking the I.Q. test. We all need to smarten up.

* Note
Smart Grid meters aren’t the same as the older wireless models. With the first generation, a van would cruise a neighborhood once a month, “call” for a signal to get the info on energy use, and be done with it. Most of those meters don’t put out radiation at any other time. But Smart Grids are that system on steroids, doing away with the meter reader and emanating 24/7.


B. Blake Levitt is a medical/science journalist, former New York Times contributor, author of Electromagnetic Fields, A Consumer’s Guide to the Issues and How to Protect Ourselves and the editor of Cell Towers, Wireless Convenience? or Environmental Hazard? She can be reached through her website: blakelevitt.com.

Chellis Glendinning is the author of five books, including When Technology Wounds and the award-winning Off the Map: An Expedition Deep into Empire and the Global Economy . She is Writer-in-Residence at Asociación Jakaña in Cochabamba, Bolivia. She can be reached through her website chellisglendinning.org.

Rererence:  http://www.energybulletin.net/stories/2011-03-23/problems-smart-grids




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