Thanks, Stitch. I looked through the pictures. This guy is known to travel audio events and do very nice images, I call him Asian Federated Mike. I did not find a lot of stimulation in the images, at least by juts looking at the images of the products that I do not know. The typical glossy rooms with matrix-like presentation. I wish those people do not just shot everything shotable but to shot ONLY what is interning in the rooms.

At the page 10 there is a funky horn installation from unknown to me company.

It looks like 3-way with time-misaligned tweeter. Looks like a new inversion of Avantgarde or somebody like this. Very silk pain job and very silk mast for tweeter. I wish somebody would invent the configuration like this when the upperbass driver did not screw up the view of the whole system. It is no surprise the then did not mount any drives in there – it would ruin the nice picture. The line up of the MF horns on the right look very nice – even though that they look like a pile of prostatic viganas.  The different types and shapes indicate that have press that they can customaries – this is nice and very not frequently. It would be nice to know who they are and if they can do custom jobs.

There was Silbatone Acoustic room on page 12. The images were not too indicative or what it is. I need to shut up about it as if I do not than the retired archeologist Joe the Pimp will pop and again begun to threaten me with this typical ludicrous verbal defecation about Western Electric. 

On the page 13 there is a new how setup from Cessaro. I like those guys and they do have some very good ideas, even if I do not endorse all of them. I would love to hear this top of the line installation, not in show condition and if I do travel again across Germany then Cessaro own demo room, perhaps in private setting would be the pace to visit.

Stitch wrote:

Well, I didn't come so close to answer your question right. I saw a few from the German DIY scenery and for them it was like the return of Jesus, best sound on Planet But probably they are still deaf as usual, because the Frequency step ups are limited ( simple voice from Sinatra when he raised his voice, it was cut of from headroom) but the overall speed in effortless sound reproduction has had a fascination no other demo could deliver.

Stitch, I am not able to make any conclusion about Silbatone being “still deaf as usual. I do not know anything about them. I know that behind Silbatone  is a local industrial who make a lot of money in his field, for years was scarping WE around the world and now, purely for entertaining, he fancies an idea of making own speakers. There is nothing wrong with it. It is hard to say what is in his head and in his soil. The problem is that we do not hear from him and not clearly see his result of his efforts. The only voice that is coming from Silbatone is from the Joe Roberts and he is white trash culturally and industry pimp ethically. To judge anything about sound by listening Silbatone  at show is very unlikely. You can say “something” about the GIP drivers they use but you will not be able to understand the sonic objective and expressive potency of the people behind the Silbatone. You need to hear Silbatone in well established installation, get Silbatone sound as final statement to understand where they are going and what they are trying to do. I do not have this experience and I am not familiar with individual components (would it be electronics of acoustic system) that they use in order to more or less accurately predict anything. A few years back when Silbatone  came up with a large single plastic horn loaded by Manger they were wrong and it was bad design and foolish objective. At that time the whore Joe Roberts was goggling web and stick his tang in each ass that defecated word Silbatone’s Manger. At that time we swore that he put your own mama in pawnshop to buy Silbatone logo after he heard the glory of Silbatone’s Manger but I think that since then ever he shut the fuck up about that bad project. So, until somebody credible will explain of demonstrate the Silbatone result I will be still on face about what Silbatone  does.

Stitch wrote:

The Polish HornName: UNIVERSUM (the red one)Advanced 3-way Horn loaded speaker utilizing JMLC-200T midrange Horn and JMLC-1400 high frequency Horn. Premium drivers used are: Radian 950P with Truextent Beryllium diaphragm. Bass enclosure is of aperiodic vent type with actively driven 15" woofer. This construction is adjusted to give smooth, relaxed sound with lowest distortion possible even at driver resonant frequency - thanks to JMLC Horn contour8 ohmsFrequency response: 30Hz-20kHzMF & HF 100W power handlingLF 300W power handling(from their information paper)

el`Ol wrote:

Cessaro once again didn't manage to find electronics that compensate the cold TAD sound,

el`Ol wrote:

I think they could could make the sound more pleasant with an overkill of second harmonic distortion. But for people who prefer that kind of sound a relax-horn like Anima would be better anyway. No real solution. Maybe they should try the Radian aluminium diaphragms for TAD.

Romy the Cat wrote:

el`Ol wrote: I think they could could make the sound more pleasant with an overkill of second harmonic distortion. But for people who prefer that kind of sound a relax-horn like Anima would be better anyway. No real solution. Maybe they should try the Radian aluminium diaphragms for TAD. I think it has nothing to do with second harmonic. One gets more masking effect and more palatable sound but I do not think that this is the problem of Cessaro.

Wojtek wrote:

and especially "perfectionists" markets like Germany. Sound is of a secondary importance. I bet the new driver from Cesarro will be field coil driver because that's what peoplewant NOW. They want "the best" and field coil is now the best. Roman , something tells me that you did not experiment with Tad (4001)driver at all simply discharging it after a short trial. It is totaly unsuited to tractrix horn and works  in 350-2k range. To use it like Cesarro did (if their horn is tractrix ) is  simply a bad idea and would probably require a tricky filtering and still is probably dead sounding. Kevin Scott with his Pinokio nose horn found maybe optimal solution for TAD driver.Rgrds, W