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11-29-2011 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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The tales of two Bruckners.
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Got two recordings from Tokyo and from London yesterday.

The first one is Wand’s live recording with Berlin in 1999. It was Bruckner Seventh. I heard a few Wand’s Bruckner Seventh and I do not like any of them. This one from 1999 is the best Wand with Bruckner 7, however it does not rises to the pantheon of the greatest Bruckner 7. The sound of this recording is quite horrible. If it was not Wand’s Bruckner I would probably trash this CD, even I paid for it $40. Partially the sound is bad due to the idiots from BMG Japan re-master the recordings from original source in 192K. They use Sound Works K2, the industry leading tool and this crap destroys Sound like a nuclear bomb. It is unfortunate as this Wand’s Seventh is so bad…

The second one I got from UK is John Barbirolli’s Bruckner 8. I do have very soft spot in my for Barbirolli and I love pretty much whatever he made. This recording from 1970 with his own Hallé Orchestra and it was made a few weeks before Barbirolli died. This is very interesting   Bruckner 8 and like most of the other Barbirolli recordings it is not as much Bruckner but rather Barbirolli own take on the work. It has no lash sound or I would ay not elegance in play but it is very idiosyncratic and powerful. It is BBS live broadcast.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
12-05-2011 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 77
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Idiots!
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
The first one is Wand’s live recording with Berlin in 1999. It was Bruckner Seventh. I heard a few Wand’s Bruckner Seventh and I do not like any of them. This one from 1999 is the best Wand with Bruckner 7, however it does not rises to the pantheon of the greatest Bruckner 7. The sound of this recording is quite horrible. If it was not Wand’s Bruckner I would probably trash this CD, even I paid for it $40. Partially the sound is bad due to the idiots from BMG Japan re-master the recordings from original source in 192K. They use Sound Works K2, the industry leading tool and this crap destroys Sound like a nuclear bomb. It is unfortunate as this Wand’s Seventh is so bad…
Got today the same CD, not the Japanese pressing “remastered from original sources” but the first German release from 2000. The sound is fine. I can’t believe that Japanese so vandalized the recording. I am sure however that the idiot who did it is well celebrated sound engineer and if he show up at the forum like this then he will behave with arrogance and superiority.  Well, to me his expertise juts cost $40 and now the result of his expertise is going to the garbage can.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
12-28-2011 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 78
Post ID: 17613
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M3: what a beauty!!!
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What has happed did really happen?

Today I left a grocery store today, sat in a car, tuned to WCRB and discovered that they were playing the opining of the Mahler 3rd. I got instantly hypnotized how beautiful it was. It was slow enough and it was incredibly smart. It was expressive, it was meaningful, it was elegant and it was like never before. It had some second underlying super-meaning, so seldom happening with performance of Mahler 3rd.  It had almost that Stanislavsky super-task feeling and I was immediately taken with the play.

I quickly dove home which was just a mile away. The playback system was up and running and I spent next hour truly enjoying the performance. They never collapsed neither orchestra nor the conductor. The discipline of musicians was phenomenal but it was not constrained but superbly natural. It was like orchestra was breathing with Sound.  All six movements flew like a dream and it was absolutely gorgeous.  It was the best Mahler 3rd I heard and I eagerly was waiting the host to announce who it was.  It turned out that it was Semyon Bychkov leading the WDR Symphony Orchestra from 2002 with Marjana Lipovšek signing along with Köln Cathedral Choir.  It turned out that the performance is available on CD: Avie AV0019, not in US but this is kind of expected.

The event took place during the WCRB program by James David Jacobs, I have no idea how he dug it out! Thanks James!

All my searches of the CD were not successful but I was able to find it directly at the recording studio site:

http://www.avie-records.com/album_detail.php?id=91

They even accept PayPal

Meow!!!!


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
12-29-2011 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
clarkjohnsen
Boston, MA, US
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Post #: 79
Post ID: 17621
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Second that devotion
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But Seiji did one once, from Symphony Hall, that was even better. The one from Tanglewood was a lesser, but still considerable affair.

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12-30-2011 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


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Gurdjieff and de Hartmann
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I was really enjoying for the last few weeks the CD with Gurdjieff’s harmonies. It is bit “new agey” but it seldom-talented “new age” and it does has some mysterious hunting quality that I LOVE. It was wonderful played by Vassilis Tsabropoulos Anja Lechner and available on ECM label.

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
01-01-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
twogoodears


Italy
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Post #: 81
Post ID: 17651
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An Happy New (Y)Ear, indeed...
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... yes, Roman... I also love Tsabropoulos' renditions and THIS very music fucked my mind, about 15 years ago... Keith Jarrett played and recorded it always on ECM, piano solo... BUT, Roman... please, PLEASE, find the real thing - i.e. de Hartmann playing at the piano, in early '50s, a 4-discs vinyl box on an ECM subsidiary label, produced by Manfred Eicher and... yes, Keith Jarrett, paying his tribute to Gurdjieff, the old master (someway) considered his mentor... this recording owns a zestness and a pureness... the analog quite primitive recordings reminds me of some Nimbus' Prima Voce series... technically (almost) flawed recording BUT with a soul not easily found.... everytime, everywhere. 
http://www.dolmenmeadoweditions.com/2_Catalogue/Item_Gurdjieff_De_Hartman/Item_Gurd_deHart_LP.htm
I recently found, always on beloved ECM, a disk of Gurdjieff's music as played by "politically correct" instruments, mostly Middle Eastern, duduk, oud, saz, dumbek, kanun, tar... it's like changing perspective of a well known landscape, different, yet, same as you say, haunting quality... an ancient deepness, sooo easy to the soul.

http://player.ecmrecords.com/gurdjieff
Happy New Ear. 


"Use your ears as your eyes" - Gertrude Stein

Stefano
01-01-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


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Gurdjieff’s music...
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Thanks, twogoodears.

I might look into it. For me the noise around the Gurdjieff subject is a bit controversial but I do not mind to with my interest to go in and out of some of his ideas.  His music is also is not what I would “collect” but at time I do find it very interesting. I wish the composers of “large” music would take some of the Gurdjieff’s musical ideas and use it. Oh, shit! I am taking again about my Bruckner…

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
01-09-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


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The truly Wand’s weekend.
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This weekend it was 100s birthday of Günter Wand. I was not planning any “events” but the event did found me. Yesterday a local friend of my visited me. Me were listening some music and he brought some Japanese-made and not available otherwise DVDs with Bruckner recordings. One of them was Bruckner Symphony No. 4 with NDR Sinfonieorchester recorded during live concert. it was the original 1878 version and it was performed not anywhere but in the celebrated Lübeck cathedral with its renown 10 second reverberation time…

I crank sound in my video room all the way up. The play phenomenal, the sound was phenomenal and the video presentation was not as annoying as usual. It was such a stunning presentation that as it was over I told to my friend that I am not willing to hear anything else today, he felt the same.
I do not use my video room very frequently. I like the options but I am not sure that I like the entire video experience as much as I like my main playback room. Still, the Bruckner 4 yesterday was the single most inspiriting experience that I had from my video room so far. It was so powerful that I did not even had any interest to hear the yesterday neither live broadcast of BSO Richard Strauss’s “Also sprach Zarathustra” nor the last night’s live broadcast  of Verdi's 'Rigoletto' from Washington National Opera.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
01-10-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Interesting "no interest" mode.
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
This weekend it was 100s birthday of Günter Wand. I was not planning any “events” but the event did found me. Yesterday a local friend of my visited me. Me were listening some music and he brought some Japanese-made and not available otherwise DVDs with Bruckner recordings. One of them was Bruckner Symphony No. 4 with NDR Sinfonieorchester recorded during live concert. it was the original 1878 version and it was performed not anywhere but in the celebrated Lübeck cathedral with its renown 10 second reverberation time…

I crank sound in my video room all the way up. The play phenomenal, the sound was phenomenal and the video presentation was not as annoying as usual. It was such a stunning presentation that as it was over I told to my friend that I am not willing to hear anything else today, he felt the same.
I do not use my video room very frequently. I like the options but I am not sure that I like the entire video experience as much as I like my main playback room. Still, the Bruckner 4 yesterday was the single most inspiriting experience that I had from my video room so far. It was so powerful that I did not even had any interest to hear the yesterday neither live broadcast of BSO Richard Strauss’s “Also sprach Zarathustra” nor the last night’s live broadcast  of Verdi's 'Rigoletto' from Washington National Opera.
Last night I went home and I had absolutely distinct no interest to hear any music. It happens sometime but last night it was distinctly different as I clearly felt that I still did not want to hear anything after that Bruckner 4 I heard on Sunday. I wonder how long would it last…

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
03-12-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
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Joe Hisaishi- Spirited away album
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I recently Discovered The album, soundtracks from the movie : Spirited away

New Japan Philharmonic sound and recording is inspiring

http://www.amazon.com/Spirited-Away-Joe-Hisaishi/dp/B00006HCT7


05-23-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Romy the Cat


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A Night ride.
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Last night I was returning from local production of Tchaikovsky’s Iolanta. It was mean rain here in Boston and fragile Bostonians were hiding in their homes, it was 10PM and the roads were free. I was in mood for some kind of offensive drive – a new car with new tires does stimulate to do it… I opened up the windows, max up the radio and for a next 30 minutes of driving from Brookline to Woburn I had absolutely phenomenal time. So, if you are residents of Brookline, Alston, Somerville, Arlington, Winchester and Woburn and your kids were waked up last night by a driving by Moron with loud radio then it was me.

If you remember the Solaris, not the American idiotic version but the Tarkovsky’s 1972?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcglyhUre4w

The film had the celebrated drive-by scene with violin transcription of Bach 1st keyboard Concerto – unprecedented 15 minutes salient drive with only Bach music.  That what I had last night only I was in the driving sit. The music was Viktoria Mullova crashing through second Bach Partita with her 1750 violin using gut strings a baroque bow. That was unspeakably beautiful and precious, so precious that I even shut the fuck up and did not talk in car for 30 mounts, which was also unprecedented event.

The caT.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
09-27-2012 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
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CAtcerto by conductor and composer Mindaugas Piecaitis
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Truly blown away and inspired by Nora :
http://www.catcerto.com/

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Paul S
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Older Me, Later Gould Goldberg, and Dominos
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I was listening in my car today to the Gould interview included in the classic '55/'81 "comparison" CD set. For some reason the information seemed very clear today, and when I followed up by listening through the '81 Variations I was quite taken with most of them, also the approach, in general. Some still sound to me as if Gould is mostly trying to prove something. Still, basically, the dominos fell, the fog of deliberate consideration lifted, and I simply "got" the Music via the playing. Also, I have to say I find the '81 to be "more mature" than the '55, just as Gould himself says.

Nice.

Paul S
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