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Romy the Cat


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What to do in office?
The list of the Classical Live Online Radio

In US:

http://classicalwebcast.com/usa.htm

In Europe:

http://classicalwebcast.com/europe.htm

In Rest of the Word:

http://classicalwebcast.com/rest.htm

Enjoy, the Cat


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Romy the Cat


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A nice Australian station.

I know bout Mars more then I know about Australia, still last few weeks I discovered and quite enjoy at my work this Australian station:

http://www.abc.net.au/classic/

Good programming and the 15 hours difference makes an interesting difference for catching live AU broadcasts during the US work hours.

The Cat


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RonyWeissman
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Internet radio?
Hi Romy,  I am a little behind the times as regards internet radio, etc..  Can I run some sort of cable to listen to these stations on my audio installation, or is it just for listening on the computer sound ?

Thanks,
R Weissman
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Romy the Cat


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Internet streams are not truly high quality
Rony, I do not relay know. I never played the Internet Feeds on my “big” playback; in fact I never had those intentions. I think it will be horrible. I usually listen those Internet streams via headphones and a computer while I am working.

The Cat


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Fantastic playlist
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I discovered a station I really like, with a good percentage of "content-loaded" music, and in any case, a playlist FULL of surprises :

http://www.realradios.com/north-america/united-states/virginia/whro/connoisseur-classics

It is of course only a 128kbps stream. I use it more as a source of discovering "new" music, which I can then buy in high resolution.

Rony,

Very late response here, but if you have not already figured it out, here are two ways you may wish to consider:

The easy, but lower quality way involves using the normal audio-out jack on your computer (the signal will go through your computer's sound card), feeding that line directly into your preamp (via miniplug to RCA adaptor cable).

A higher quality solution would be to use an external USB DAC (in which case the computer's sound card is not used). However, remember, we are talking about relatively low resolution feeds, so the results may not be spactacular. The investment in such a DAC can nevertheless be justified because with this solution you can also use your computer's hard drive (or an external hard drive) to play back full resolution files. Using this method, I have found the results to be nothing short of excellent (believe it or not, better than when using my CD player).

I have never tried listening to internet radio other than via my computer speakers (until now I did not have internet at the house... Only took a year!), but I now intend to do just that.

jd*


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Uh, not so fantastic
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Well I spoke too soon; from the second I posted word that I'd found an internet station with a fantastic play list they started playing all sorts of militaryesque crap (marches and the like, which I hate! Lots of Mozart...), and they're still at it. My apologies for the false alarm.

jd*


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RonyWeissman
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ITunes
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Hi Jessie,

Thanks for reply.  I am Mac based and am looking at the following idea for sending music from my computer to my audio system.  The guy that builds it says that the sound is much better than he gets out of CD-playback, who knows. Do you have any experience with this?

http://db-system.fr/bd_system/Airport_Express_modifiee_-_WiFi.html

R Weissman
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jessie.dazzle


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Modded AirPort Express
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Hello Rony,

No, I've never heard a DB Systems-modified AirPort Express.

You might start by buying AirPort Express from Apple (89€); this should give you some insight... If you sense it has further potential, then (since you are in France) you could contact DB Systems and arrange a demo, either at their place, or possibly at the home of a satisfied customer who lives closer to you.

It is worth noting that without advertising of any kind, DB Systems has acquired quite a good reputation within French audio circles (and now that I think of it, a couple years ago I sold a pair of Verity Audio speakers to a guy who was eying a DB Systems modified AirPort Express).

Looking at the website, apart from apparent good taste, one can infer certain things :

Assembly of components appears to be first class and old school.

However, I'm not sure I trust the dudes ear; there's too much DSP-corrected compromise and digital filtering involved in his system (When spending that sort of cash, why resort to DSP? Especially with all that space?)

If you do go for a demo or end up buying one of their modded units, I'd be interested in knowing your opinion.

jd*



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Romy the Cat


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Insanely wonderful!
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 Romy the Cat wrote:

I know bout Mars more then I know about Australia, still last few weeks I discovered and quite enjoy at my work this Australian station:

http://www.abc.net.au/classic/

Good programming and the 15 hours difference makes an interesting difference for catching live AU broadcasts during the US work hours.

I always like them but during the last 3-4 month I developed a pure addition to them. They are the subject of my dally listening in office and I LOVE this programs. The quality of the 128 feed is high eight and it is a sheer pleasure to have their service. I start my workdays in office at 7AM EST (hate to work after lunch) and what I arrived I usually get the second part of their “In Performance” live broadcasts. Today it is Direct Broadcast from Harmer Hall in Melbourne with Gerard Schwarz leading Melbourne Symphony with Bruckner Third in D minor.

http://www.abc.net.au/classic/daily/stories/s2549393.htm

Anyhow, this is what I have my 8 billable hours in office. Great programs!

The Cat
 


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ABC Classical
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I live in Australia and listen to this radio station every day. A liitle more info.

The website has the program listed for Today, Tomorrow, Yesterday and Future dates.

I also listened to the Mozart 100 and found it to be very educational.

There was many interviews of historians and musicians explaining the various Mozart pieces.

Worth a listen.

regards,

Gordon

 

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Romy the Cat


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The Australian FM radio.
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Thanks, Gordon

How good the quality of their live FM broadcasts? Are you recording them if they are good?

http://www.romythecat.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=8330

From what I hear over Internet I might that the quality of their FM might be very high… I hope, I hope…

The Cat


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ABC FM
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Hi romy,

I am sorry I will not be much help regarding sound quality of FM at present. I do not currently record but hope to do so in the future. My FM stereo reception is poor but this is mostly to do with my aerial. I also live in a dip. It seems I get better reception when switching my NAD tuner to Mono. I really don't mind listening to classical music in mono. My love for classical music is blossoming but I am trying not to get too anal retentive. I love your web site and have learned so much but unfortunately my system is not to a standard where I would be comfortable making determinations in sound quality. 

The ABC are going digital in August. The format is DAB+. Tangent from Denmark market a DAB+ with a coax out. I would assume from this that I will be able to record digital directly to a PC. Hope to do this in the future. I understand for a period they will also be transmitting analogue, but eventually it will be phased out.

Perhaps you can answer a question for me. Will the live broadcast be digital? Do they use digital mics? Will this affect quality. 

You might also like to check out the following web site: http://www.3mbs.org.au/listen.html. 3MBS is a local radio station in Melbourne. 

Sorry I am not much help at present.

regards,

Gordon

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The stations that broadcasting in digital.
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The fact that they are broadcasting digital streams over web has no impact over FM reception of cause. The problem is not “digital” but with the stations the embrace HD Radio. The HD Radio is very popular here in US and many do FM/HD simulcasts. To get a FM signal “clean”    from a station that does HD your multiplex decoder in your tuner shall have a filter that would sharply kill the garbage over 53kHz or 65kHz. You might look at the web for posdetection filters… Some tuners have it some not. Those that do not have it will be a problem with HD …

If the posdetection filter is simple to fix there is something else that is the bigger bitch. They sold a lot of HD radio in cars and they want the cars to have a reliable connection. If you run FM and driver into a bad reception area then you just pick a noise. If you are in bad reception area with HD then you completely loose the signal (like telephones). So, if you lose HD then they automatically switch you to FM (any HD receiver has FM logic). To do so the FM and HD feeds need to be synchronized and here is where the major problem arrives. The run one feed as a master and another as slave and the slave feed constantly delayed or run ahead of the master feed. So they in REAL TIME jerk the slave feed back and forth, synchronizing it with master. If the FM feed is the master then it is not a problem (the HD listeners are deaf anyhow) but if the FM feed is a slave then it is a huge problem as you can hear the artifacts of the feed jerking… So, it is all depends what kind listeners your station considers revealing and depends of how much the people who work at the station care about Sound.

I do not know anything about the DAB+ format. The FM/HD is all that we have here in Boston.

The Cat


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DAB+
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Understood. Thank you as always for the technical info.

I mentioned the DAB+ becasue the ABC are spending all their time and money implementing digital. 1st July is the start. You might glean some info on perceived quality of this format if recorded. For an excellent explanation on DAB+ see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio_Broadcasting

To summarise this; DAB+(Digital Audio Broadcasting+) uses the AAC+ audio codec and can provide high quality audio with as low as 64kbit/s. I am currently trying to find out what bit rate Australia will be using. Reception quality will also be more robust on DAB+ than on DAB due to the addition of Reed-Solomon error correction. The technical sescription on how it works is found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed-Solomon coding. It is used Bottom line is taht it fills in missing bits(errors). Reed–Solomon codes are used in a wide variety of commercial applications, most prominently in CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray Discs, in data transmission technologies such as DSL & WiMAX, in broadcast systems such as DVB and ATSC, and in computer applications such as RAID 6 systems.

Getting back to the recording part of the discussion I am assuming  that all tuners for DAB+ will decode the AAC+ then using an internal DAC send the analogue signal to the amp. There are a few DAB+ tuners on the market which has a coax output so I am assuming this is bypassing the internal DAC of the tuner. I can send this digital signal to a pc card and record. According to a source in the ABC the live broadcasrs will use digital mics. I currently have the name of the manager of digital radio and am waiting for him to reply.

I don't believe that the live broadcast will be digital. Currently only major cities will be able to receive DAB+ and for a while the ABC will have to still issue analogue signals. Australia is a big country and the ABC is a national(govt) organisation which must consider the populace.

3mbs is going digital in 2010. They are interesting because they only have to consider one city and its members. I hope to talk to the technician. 

All this should interest you Romy becasue eventually to record FM radio in Australia, assuming it is worth recording, DAB+ will be the progenitor of the signal. Of course it goes without saying that the original voices and instruments will be analogue. Perhaps there will be a day when we go to a star wars opera and all the singers will be wearing Darth Vader helmets to encode the signal at source and send it to an encoder fitted to our ears. I often wonder if much of todays technology is "technology for technology's sake". I know that the DAB+ will give me a better reception, but will it give me better sound quality. I am sceptical at present because of the use of a specific codec(AAC+). It all gets down to the algorithm and unfortunately no one with educated ears will be making the decision.

regards,

Gordon

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DAB+ More info
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3MBS tell me that they cuurently do not know which bit rate is going to be used in their digital broadcast. They have a contract with another company which decides on how much bandwith is allocated. They are pushing for a high bandwith because they understand the type of customers they have are a more discerning listener. 3MBS is nearly all classical content. They are trying to get 192Kb/sec but think it may be 128Kb/sec. They will be usiing analogue mic at live broadcsts.

The Tangent Net-200 has a coax(spdif) out. The DAB+ will be decoded and the resulting digital signal will bypass the internal DAC. This info provided by the Tangent Distributor. This will be interesting as now the ADC can be left out of the chain of recording, ie, digital FM in to the tuner - encoded in tuner - digital out to PC card - recorded in digital and sent to an external DAC.

regards,

Gordon 

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DAB+ vs. HD Radio
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Thanks for information, Gordon 

I am a skeptic about this DAB+. Whatever amount of kBits they select it will be still digitally compressed format. So, it will be one of the versions of our HD format. I presume it will be better then HD but I down that it will be as good than good FM. IT will have less analog compression but Bits conversion will kill sound anyhow. On the good side it looks like DAB+ will be running at higher bandwidth then HD, at 174 - 240 MHz that it further from 88-103 band, so it might not affect FM at all.
 
The Cat


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No Time For CDs
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Here is a double jeopardy case. From one side it comes from EnjoyTheMusic.com – how frequently you have seen non-idiotic articles in there? From another side it comes from Boston audio Society speaker – the association where sincerity is more frequent then water on Mars. Still, here I comes– a wonderful article in a stupid publication from a person who represents a stupid organization: David A. Rich’s “No Time For CDs”

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/bas/1109/

Very good, David!

Rgs, Romy the Cat


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The Radiotime
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http://radiotime.com/channel/c_57939/Classical.aspx


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Romy the Cat


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...and some more to do in office...
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http://www.publicradiofan.com/

http://www.listenlive.eu/classical.html

http://www.operacast.com/

http://theairthisweek.blogspot.com/

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Billable Bruckner?
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I have a new client who put me shitty office with no privacy of any kind.  I am sitting in there like in Bagdad intersection – that sucks; hopefully it will not last long. To insult the injury right around me some a bunch of hoodlums with HR paranoia in their heads and a stupid hyper-sensitivity to what they call political correctness, so my favorite subject at wok place – how to make corporate yuppies to be threaten is not working out in this environment.

Fortunately there are headphones and my little mean CD player. This contract is set in the way that I do not need to interact with people and I having a truly great time nowadays. Many years ago I learn how to were headphones and to fake at my face an expression that I care what I see.  Now I am taking a full advantage of it and I really enjoy it. I took today at work a box set with all Bruckner symphonies. One box set – one billable day. Truly wonderful!

The Cat


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Wonderful music
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Also check this site please:http://www.radioswissclassic.ch/en
I listen to this by my digital radio connected to my main system, it's fantastic.

Armen

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Surviving in Bagdad...
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I'm right there with you, temporarily installed in the middle of a Bagdad intersection.

So, one day not too long ago I slipped out during lunch and picked up a pair of decent, closed-back, full-size, fairly antisocial looking headphones (ATH M-50s) and a 2TB internal drive. Internal because 1) they are cheaper, and 2) because I didn't want to have to lock the drive up or take it home every night to prevent theft. 

But I did take the new drive home that night and loaded it with a significant portion of my home music library, all in full resolution. Returning to the Bagdad intersection the follow morning, I stuffed it in the case of the HP work station and downloaded iTunes. Surprisingly, straight out of the on-board sound card, the sound is pretty damn good and allows me to concentrate in the midst of what I call the salad bowl.

However, here the musical journey is interrupted every day, all morning long. Count yourself lucky that you are not working in France; it is a French custom upon arrival at the work place, to make the rounds and robotically say good morning to everyone, regardless of whether you know them or not, and to accompany the greeting with a robotic hand shake and, if you're feeling particularly benevolent, a brief robotic look in the eye (!)... I mean everyone in the whole damn place, other than me, the anti-christ, makes the rounds without exception (its 9:30 a.m. here and I had to pause in the middle of that sentence and shake the hands of two arrivals). It is mainly a means of putting a spotlight on arrival time. I really must learn that expression that shows (pause for another handshake!) concern for what I see... Please do post a photo. Meanwhile, I've pulled the monitor right up into my face and set up a fan with exposed spinning blades (removed the protective cage) in the middle of the "hand shake reach zone" over my desk.

Anyway, you might want to try the HDD solution; portable external or internal (which is super convenient these days as most PCs now use slide-out drive mounts). This would allow you to listen to your really long FM recordings in native res, as most on-board sound cards now do more than 16/44.1.

Really amazingly good sound is possible if you're willing to invest in a dedicated headphone amp with built-in USB DAC; I did this for my home workstation and use it with planar-magnetic phones for late night listening/working. The rig is small enough to bring to work and I would if potential theft were not an issue.

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Antisocial looking headphones….
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Ok, now see why the French cars, all of those Peugeots, Citroens and Renaults, are as bad as they are: because Jessie instead of working is listening his headphones.

The media to play at work: would it be hard drive of CD player is irrelevant. I do prefer CD player as I do like to have hard CD in my hands; I like to read the box and so on. I have CD player and headphone configuration that I very much accustom – I use ONLY this configuration for over 15 years and I see no needs to change anything. Also, I would like do not use my PC to play audio files. Surprisingly under windows to play wave files is a relatively expensive task and I need as much as possible recourses on my machines as when I work then my PCs they rendering some recourses-expensive tasks.

I am surprised to hear about the French’s custom to be overly polite to everyone and to steal from coworkers. I never seen anybody was stealing anything in US offices. To steal a few million dollars from bank of a dozen of servers from data center – that is given and normal but to steal from a theft at next cube to you  - that I never seen. Well, I always steal any unattended food from somebody desk but I warn people that there is a mean always hungry Cat in the office and they need do not tamp fate and live the unattended food atop of their desks.

The mandatory greeting and smiling I did address a lone time ago. I have written a book in a past “How to make friends 101” and I have divulge the techniques. At you very first day fine a coworker with bigger month in the office, shake his/her hands for annoyingly looooong time and keep looking at his/her eyes. In his/her question why you shake hands for such a long time reply that your parole officers advised you to do so. I assure you that next day no one will bother to greet you and you will be perfectly left alone with your Bruckner.

About the “learning that expression”. I can’t post a phonograph but I will give you an idea. When somewhere in public transportation you see a woman with attractive body features but you are not willing to proceed to hook up with her than do you remember what you do? Of cause the only thing in the world you wish to do is to study the anatomy of her legs. So, with the same “face techniques” you can perfectly stare as much as you wish but do not make her to feel uncomfortable. Use the same face in only in reverse on your coworkers and they will vote you to be the most dedicated employee of the month while you are "out" for your Bruckner sessions....

The Cat


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Don’t ask, Don’t tell.
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Today I was sitting with my “signature compassionate corporate face” in the office of my client with my headphones on.  A coworker come me and asked what I am listening. I asked him if he knows classical music, he said that he does not. I reached to my shelf and grabbed a CD with Bruckner 7. He put my headphones on and I played to him a few minutes of the Adagio opening. The guy took then the phones off and asked me “How the hell can you work, listening music like this?” Guess what I answered?

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Internet Radio
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I get much enjoyment from the Norwegian Radio web radio. They have a wonderful mix of the music that I like which is orchestral and advanced chamber music. They broadcast at 192KB which is not super fidelity, but their choice of special performances makes it easy to get lost in the music instead of mad at the hardware:
NRK Klassisk


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