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Romy the Cat


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"Appeal to the Great Spirit"

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I wonder if any music sounds like this to you:

This work is “Appeal to the Great Spirit” by Cyrus Edwin Dallin 1909, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston...




"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Antonio J.
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Finally found it

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Almost one year passed since I first saw these pictures and quite frequently I've been thinking about the question. Some pieces were quite close, but not entirely like that. Some Bach... even Wagner, but not really. Finally today I've listened to the piece of music which lets me floured by the magnificence of something that is really greater than anything else.

It is the Lacrimosa of the Mozart's Requiem on the "dated" version of HvK with the Berliner Philarmoniker recorded on 1962. I wish I had it in vinyl.

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Romy the Cat


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“Appeal to the Great Spirit” and Bruckner

It has been Long since I published the pictures of one of my most beloved stature. The Cyrus Edwin Dallin made “Appeal to the Great Spirit” in 1909 and nowadays it sits at the front entrance of Boston Museum of Fine Arts. I would admit a minor plagiarism: what I designed the banner image for the front page of my site I used the “Appeal…” as inspiration.

The last couple years I am noting that there is something in Bruckner related to the “Appeal…”, particularly the Seventh and Ninth symphonies, particularly if they are properly preformed.

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/TreeItem.aspx?postID=2290#2290

It is not even about the Bruckner’s pressure development in his music but rather about his sound. Bruckner’s  sound has some sort very laconic quality of being completely “compiled”. It does not require to be “listened”. Interesting that the “Appeal to the Great Spirit”, at least to me, has the same “no details” quality. I was near the Dallin’s sculpture perhaps 30 times but I really can’t recall any small details of the “Appeal...” but rather the macro-effect that the Indian figure inflicts on me.



The Bruckner’s Appeal? Who knows…. The Bruckner’s Organ is above....

Romy


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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yoshi
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A bit late for the party but,
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beside the title, "Apeal to the Great Spirit", the stature itself reminds me of Sibelius 5th.

Yoshi

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Romy the Cat


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Give me a name.
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 yoshi wrote:

beside the title, "Apeal to the Great Spirit", the stature itself reminds me of Sibelius 5th.

Yoshi, is any specific performance or specific vintage of the Sibelius 5th brought you to this realization?


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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yoshi
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Sibelius 5th
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I have only 3 recordings at the moment.

Sanderling/Berliner SO (1976)

Colin Davis/LSO (2003 live)

Saraste/Finnish Radio SO (1995)

Sanderling sings well with a broad brush strokes.  Davis with dramatic contrast and detailed articuration.  Saraste, an interesting combination of emphasis on both the composers' advanced harmonic sence and classical romanticism.

So far, I enjoy Davis' most.

I found Barbillori/Halle on Ebay (LP) the other day and waiting for the arrival.

Yoshi

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Romy the Cat


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Dunces with Wolfs by Colin Davis...
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I think it time for you to found Colin Davis with Boston Symphony from 1975…


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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yoshi
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That hideous cover work!
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I almost pick it up on ebay several times, but the hideous cover work always stopped me from committing to it!

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OK, Sibelius and Munch were both from Scandinavia, Sibelius from Finland and Munch from Norway, but that's the only connection I can imagine (except one ot two painting by Munch that may echoe Swan of Tuonela).  I can't think of any artistic connection between these two artists.  Then, the designer surround the image with pink!  Pink is the farthest color I can think of in relationship with Sibelius!  And, to make the matter worse, the stupid designer uses Art Deco kind of fonto for "Sibelius" and "Colin Davis"!  What the hell is he thinking!  I bet the designer never actually heard any of Sibelius' work and the only input he had was that the composer was from somewhere in Scandinavia.

Well, since you recommend it, I'll give it a try, and if I liked it, I'll cover the entire box with the image of "Appeal to the Great Spirit".

Yoshi
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rowuk


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It could be one of many things
Today, it would mean Johann Hermann Schein - Was betrübst Du Dich, meine Seele - Weser Renaissance Ensemble Manfred Cordes.

There are other days where it is more like this.
https://goo.gl/images/wUFxfB
Then again, there is a recording by the vocal group Voces 8 of Elgars Enigma Variation “Nimrod” that, in spite of the terrible Abby Road recording, makes me realize how small that I am. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IwdeqVmXlHk



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