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op.9
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Meyer X-10
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Does anyone have any experience with the Meyer X-10?
I have heard this speaker a few times now - always under difficult conditions (dead studio control rooms - and with material with excessive reverb) - but I have heard just enough to make me think that there is something rather special going on. The horn midrange certainly sounds very detailed and lively and real, with what appears to be a really nice tactile quality.  I'd be very interested to hear these in a real live room setup.cheers,


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Romy the Cat


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The Meyer X-10 monitor.
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I never heard it or about it but here is data:

http://www.meyersound.com/pdf/products/studio_series/x-10_ds.pdf

http://www.meyersound.com/news/press/sos_x10_800.htm

It looks like it has CB horn and aluminum cone in plastic suspention:

“Meyer developed their own compression driver for the X10 — a custom-built four-inch device with an aluminium alloy diaphragm. One of the innovative aspects of its design is that the diaphragm is supported by a hybrid suspension arrangement which has been designed to remain quiet when it moves, unlike the folded metal suspension designs of most equivalent compression drivers.”

I would hardly call it “innovative aspects” – all best compression drivers do the same stating from end of 30s.

They did the actual time-alignment. Some might call it “innovative” but since I just automatically discard any design that exclude time-alignment  of channels then I see in it a rather a norm then an innovation. The article sate that “there is great debate about the importance of accurate time-alignment” but I see the things differently. There are people who have ears and brain to interpret and understand the audible and there are the rest. It is not a debate about the time-alignment but about the idiocy of perception. I am glad that Meyer in a boat with better people.

The “really nice tactile quality” that you described is very cool it comes from proper integration of TTH characteristic between the drivers – a good sign in my book. It is very much that it worth to find the MF driver that the Meyer X-10 speaker use and give to it an individual try. Who knows it might be a good driver.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Meyer Sound Compression Drivers
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Here is a link describing Meyer Sound's design philosophy, production and implementation:

http://www.meyersound.com/support/forums/talkshop/drivers.htm

They began production of their own drivers to improve longevity and reliability in the field.  These drivers replace modified Yamaha and JBL drivers in their speakers.  What I found most interesting is the production process.  The plant is located in Berkeley, CA.  Drivers are assembled in small batches.  I think this approach has the potential for better implementation and quality control, compared to the large OEMs.

I never heard the Meyer speakers, but it would be interesting to try these drivers. 
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Romy the Cat


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Here is another example …
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 skushino wrote:
Here is a link describing Meyer Sound's design philosophy, production and implementation:

http://www.meyersound.com/support/forums/talkshop/drivers.htm

They began production of their own drivers to improve longevity and reliability in the field.  These drivers replace modified Yamaha and JBL drivers in their speakers.  What I found most interesting is the production process.  The plant is located in Berkeley, CA.  Drivers are assembled in small batches.  I think this approach has the potential for better implementation and quality control, compared to the large OEMs.

I never heard the Meyer speakers, but it would be interesting to try these drivers. 

Scott thanks for the link to the Meyer’s article. Here is an example how those always stupid articles on the manufactures sites might be different. We are so accustomed to usually filled with the stupid pomposity and idiotic secrecy manufactures telling about own alleged superiority that a normal talking sounds nowadays as a “novelty”. Here is Meyer normally talks about their means, objectives and ways to go there. Pay attention that they do not do a lot of different things that what other have done and they have omitted in their explanation some very key elements (which they are perfectly entitled to do)  but the whole feeling about the article is very positive. There are certainly moments in the Meyer’s position with which I very much degree with Meyer. Hey however build the MF driver for very different tasks then I would use them, so it is understandable.
There is a review of Jerry Del Colliano in some kind of Home Theater magazine about the X-10

http://hometheaterreview.com/meyer-sound-x-10-powered-loudspeakers

The article in way lame but gives some idea how a “simple person” would react to X-10.

I do not have a lot of interest in X-10, thought I would listed them if I see them. My interest is only about the MF X-10 driver. If I try to employ the X-10 driver then I would use is very different then Meyer does anyhow. I am a bit concerned about high compression ratio:  4” to 1“exit, about the ferrofluid in the gap, about the plastic phase plug that is not as part of magnetic systems and about a few other things. Still, the proof in the pudding and until I play with the driver it heard to say what it does. I would also predict that if Meyer’s do the MF driver for home use and 3-5W of dissipating powers then they would do many different design decisions then what they did so far in their MF compression driver.

The caT


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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