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This thread has been pretty interesting overall. I've read most of it and would at least like to provide some feedback on the technical side of designing with the 45 and 2A3 DHTs... at least from my personal experience. A few years back I decid...
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Why use the GM70 apart from its power potential? For one thing, it seems to require literally lethal voltages to become remotely listenable. Is it really "that" linear, to insist on it?But my experience with GM70 is quite imited. I ...
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Jim, It is the super tube – you forgot to mention the amount of noise with its transconductance…. You use the 7788 as a driver to drive 2A3? This is kind of strange: the 7788 has relatively low bias and a typical line voltage should sent 7788 deep in...
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[quote user="Paul S"]So what's wrong with the 6SN7, apart from the high prices fetched by good ones? If building a 2A3 amp for personal use, it seems a likely choice. I do not know the 6E5P, but I do love the tone of the 6SN7, and I espec...
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[quote user="Paul S"]Adrian, I agree that SETs generally have issues such as you describe, and moreso the small ones, especially at the frequency extremes, and at saturation, which tends to occur all too soon, IMO. But I have not sourced t...
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[quote user="drdna"] Well, and I have a dozen of them sitting here next to my desk while I am building my Milq amp s-l-o-w-l-y so I guess I will discover my audio intelligence level sometime after the New Year.[/quote]
That is so cool that you...
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Not to mention the "overload"!Jim, I have never seen that before.I happen to like the 2A3 a lot; nice tone and great bass. I only quit on it because of the power limits.Congratulations.AC or DC heaters?If you haven't yet tried the Sovtek 2...
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This subject does not bother me too aggressively as I recognize absolutely no sonic demands or listening temptations to change anything in my playback. However, there is a theoretical and conceptual curiosity on my part and I would like to learn what...
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I was playing lately with the Single-stage Melq and the DHT amp driving MF channel. It turned out that the Sun Audio VT-2A3 was very simple kit and it 2-3 hours to make it working. There is a lot in this kit that I do not like and some revisions will...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]It is obvious that 6SN7-2A3 and 6E6P direct have very different character. The 2A3 it feels like heavy-sunk time of tube and it constantly run a fully submerged. It has seriousness but it does not look at this point that i...
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[quote user="drdna"] I also use the 6SN7-2A3 DHT for my system (except subwoofer). Did you use the Electrocubes for the coupling capacitors? Was the internal wiring regular copper?
The coupling capacitor is critical, of course.
Also, I will say t...
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I kind of disagree with Adrian. The wire, the coupling caps, the cathode resistors and many other things are superbly important but it is after the strategic topology is settled. In my view caps, resistor, wire and other things are responsible for th...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]Can you post or explain the topology of your 6SN7-2A3?[/quote]The amplifiers I use started from a kit I bought, the Moondog, so here you can see the basic topology. It is very simple. The first stage here can be eliminated,...
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Dealing more with Sun Audio SV-2A3 kit it amassed me how bad the kit was. The guys made very cheap, in fact I hardly believe that this company has anything to do with Japan – it looks more like K-Mart level of amplifier. I heard a number of very posi...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]I do not know what you mean by “specific set-up” and what San Audio did is very orthodox use of 2A3 and I did not change it. The only change that I made (and I do not know at this point if it was a good change) was the chan...
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Romy, don't be so sure the amp is 2-stage. The ECC99 is a twin triode (mu=22, Rp around 2k) so the two sections could be cascaded, paralleled or the second section used as a CF or several other possible topologies.
Their 2A3 is rated up to 40W pl...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]Are any of those new tubes besides the Chinese tubes are single plated?[/quote]I believe they are all single plated.
[quote user="Romy the Cat"]I have bought some very nice 2A3 and 6A3 double plated from 1942 and 1944 an...
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You will be happy to hear I have got the new 2A3 tubes. I have spent the evening listening to them all. Some very interesting results! I will be posting soon...
Adrian...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]BTW, I run today the Chinese 2A3 and they were much better then Sovtek tube, much-much better, in fact I was very surprise how bad the Sovtek were.[/quote]Having received a bunch of tubes, I have spent some time liste...
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[quote user="drdna"]
Having received a bunch of tubes, I have spent some time listening….[/quote]
Yes, it looks like the Sovtek 2A3 are remarkably bad, even I with my stinky Tannoy was able to get it. Regarding the rest of your comments I ha...
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Romy and drnda,
When you speak of the "Chinese 2A3" which one do you mean? Romy, if you have the Shuguang 2A3C then I understand why you find it better than the Sovtek, no argument there! drdna, the Shuguang is a little more extended on top than t...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]I was thinking about this: how come that driving 6C33C (in fact driving anything one can imagine) the 6E5P was very fine but driving 2A3 it was dull like hell. I opened the amp and tested all – everything was perfect but th...
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This thread has been pretty interesting overall. I've read most of it and would at least like to provide some feedback on the technical side of designing with the 45 and 2A3 DHTs... at least from my personal experience. A few years back I decid...
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[quote user="floobydust"]The 2A3 can be almost as quiet, but ONLY in the dual-section paralleled types. I adopted a split balance technique. It only works with cathode bias due to the topology but it is effective. You also need a good quality filamen...
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Having listened for a while with the tubes, I have come to some conclusions. The three tubes I have seriously listened to are: Kron, Sophia, and Emission Labs. All the tubes are much better than any other modern 2A3 tubes I have tried. I felt my in...
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First, Adrian, Thanks for your feedback on the newer designed 2A3 tubes... very interesting. I've looked at all 3 of these brands before but have not as of yet purchased any (I have a large collection of 45 and 2A3 of various NOS US brands...
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Just some additional thoughts on the new generation of 2A3 tubes. The only ones I would seriously consider are the Kron Enterprises, the Sophia Electric, and the Emission Labs tubes. If I did not hear these side by side over an extended period of ti...
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I totally am a believer that the construction of a tube determines how it will sound. This makes perfect sense when you consider the tube is relies on the changing flux of electrons in a vacuum. It is easier at least for me to visualize this as a ph...
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[quote user="floobydust"]I do agree that the internal structure makes a big difference... but, if the tube specs properly and has adequate immunity to mechanical induced interference, then you should not be able to discern any major difference in sou...
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I am not sure what rectifier the 2A3 SET uses. Mine uses the GZ37. The best regarded is usually the Mullard NOS. I have used that for years.
Recently I was on the kick of listening to the vibration of tubes and I came across a dirt cheap tube fr...
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