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guy sergeant wrote:

Having said that I've never heard a properly working WE555 or 594 either and given the problems of getting the S2 to work well I can't imagine there are many installations using those drivers with the right sort of horns to get a really good result anyway.

Quite correct observation. There is a lot of myths about the uniqueness and beauty of some older drivers: WE, Vitavox, Telefunken, Klangfilm, Goodman’s and many-many others but the interesting fact the all those conversations about the “superior vintage technique” NEVER got transformed into the really interesting sound in listening room. In fact, all installations that I head that were excessively based on what the “vintage drivers did” sounded like crap. The better sound usually came from a selective using of some selected benefits of some vintage drivers and incorporating of those benefits into own sound reproducing objectives. In the end, a blind use of those Klangfilm and WE always end up with garbage result. An “interesting sound” comes only form a will of a system creator and from the intentions of the systems orchestrator. If person knows what she/he wants to build then some chosen opportunities that exist in some vintage drivers would be used as “tools” instead as the “crutches” or “excuses”

guy sergeant wrote:

A friend, whose ears I trust, listened (I urged him to go there) to the Cogent System at the MAF last year and said it was poor which disappointed me. I'd have to say maybe their room acoustics were bad but he said they were reasonably happy with the result they were getting. Time will tell.

You see, Guy, there is another aspect of it. As soon you mention the MAF then you refer to the very specific (audio?) awareness.  Generally that crowd could be characterized as low-class hoodlums with taste of pterodactyl and reference points of “Texas armadillo hunters”. I personally never was at MAF but a friend of my (and his taste I trust) who is one of a leaders of their community told me the that the MAF population is conglomeration of Midwest white trashes who walk from room to room, belching louder then bass horn driven with 400 Krell amplifier and to anticipate form them any interesting views or accomplishments about sound is like an attempt to bult a high performance acoustic system based upon the Radio Shack ingredients. Interesting that he calls those MAF Morons as “bottomfeeders” (his word) that I find is very correct observation. Really, if you look in-depth at the personalities that “in sine” at the MAF then one would make very intriguing overviews … primary about the abortion clinics bombers, guys bashers, blacks-hater and other “low IQ Americans” … who are so deep in the tunnels of own asses that they need a big horn to be able to see the world. I know, that I sound not like an overly stressed “a liberal form Massachusetts” but I do know personally too well a number of MAF’s “spiritual leaders” and it is enough for me to express a strong negative attitude toward all that Midwest Audiofest. Certainly I would not associate the Cogent boys with my overview above (I do not know them personally) but the fact they so much spin around the MAF idiots made me wonder what the hell they do in there….

guy sergeant wrote:

I'd love to have a pair of S2's spare that I could put field coils into. Having seen Mike Harvey's cut-away S2 I'm sure it could be done.

I had in past those thoughts, however I was not thinking about the field coils but rather to invert the driver and use the new larger tunnels enabling it to go down to 100Hz. I was thinking to talk to Mike and to order a pair of custom durable and heavier coils with thicker weir and a dropped resonance frequency. Then I realized that I would like to have a t least 5-6” diaphragm and there was some other S2 limitation that would make it not perfect for that project. Perhaps I should find another driver to torture. There are none that I know worth to excrement… The only driver that I was thinking to torture and to rebuild was Community M4 but I never when to it since I discovered the Studio 8M

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