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In the Forum: Playback Listening
In the Thread: The Sound and How We Hear It
Post Subject: Effects can be mutually exclusivePosted by drdna on: 11/10/2008
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Again, I want to emphasize that I very much agree with the idea that there are levels of perception. Your explanation is nevertheless a good one and is consistent with my ideas as well. I simply feel that once can AFFECT levels of perception independently.

 Romy the Cat wrote:
It is stereo equipment determines perception, it is the force of a given performance, it’s the power of composer’s interpretation of the idea, it is level of importance of the idea for the listener, it is the fluency of listener in the language of musically, and it is many other things. It is the melt of many ingredients and I would not assent one over another. A stereo system is just another brick in the wall of mach larger picture…
Very true. So imagine a situation where a listener is a professional cellist. The orchestral piece has a cellist that is not a good player. The listener is so fixated on the cellist's playing (e.g., he came in late, he scooped that note, etc...) that he is not connected to the piece as a whole, unlike another listener who is not a professional musician and is able to enjoy the whole orchestral work. So here is an example of an effect where emotional perception is decreased but dynamic and aesthetic perception are heightened. I simply say the same can be true of effects from an audio system.

 Romy the Cat wrote:
“Quality” is not what is “good” but what is “not bad”. The purpose of the lower levels is not to saturate the level with goodies but rather do not hurt at current level…
This is the basic idea of preferring "additive error."

 Romy the Cat wrote:
But the frequency response and transient response are both the subjects of the same first static level.
Yes, it was only an example, maybe not the best one.

 Romy the Cat wrote:
I do not like the idea of mutually exclusive or encapsulated levels.
Yes, sorry, I meant to say NOT that the LEVELS are independent, BUT that effects and errors can AFFECT levels independently.

Adrian

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