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In the Thread: Playing music for visitors.
Post Subject: Yes, precisely!Posted by jessie.dazzle on: 11/7/2008
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Romy wrote (in blue) :
"...The Truth or False categories exist only in world of well defined coordinate systems and certainty of evolutions. In music the rules are different..."
In the visual arts the rules are also "different".
Taking first the quote from Marc Chagall :
"...One cannot be precise, and still be true..."
For the purposes of this discussion, I make no distinction between music and the visual arts, in that both (and indeed all art) depict life. It seems you would agree :
"...Musically is in a way an abstract decoding of expressed sensations about world..."
Fidelity in the expression of something so enigmatic as life, (the world, life or something that is living, all of which are in evolution, not stable, not fixed), can only be achieved via imprecise terms - those which allow for interpretation. To faithfully depict life, the depiction itself must live.
And if this is not the case...
"...Would it be different if the sensations were expressed by more common communication protocol – language for instance, in dry prose? Sure it will be more “true” but it gives a very little room for listener to exercise the “freedom of embracing” and “succession”..."
Here we have what is know as an illustration. Illustration is well suited to the brain-dead world of "communications", where, in the interest of passing a precise message, all interpretation is done in advance; the message is pre-chewed and spoon-fed. (The single most devastating insult one might level against an artist is to label him/her an "illustrator").
"...All the rest is juts rendering of the implications into a social framework of understanding or appreciation – the framework that has more to do with the ego of speaker then with the value of the ideas itself…"
This (above) is the sonic equivalent to an illustration.
Take now the Van Gogh quote :
"...My great longing is to make those very incorrectnesses, those deviations, remodellings, changes in reality, so that they may become, yes, lies if you like - but lies more true than the literal truth..."
These "incorrectnesses", "devaitions", "remodellings" and "changes in reality" are forms of imprecission, called upon to serve a fidelity of expression (The Picasso version of this concept is suitable for the wall of the toilette at the Leo Bernette headquarters building!).
"...Glenn Gould considered composers, musicians and listeners as one homogeneous melt of consciousness that deal with musicality (it is not HOW he said it but it is the way how I interpret it as I agree with him). If so, then “expressed” in audio/music is not something that is precisely named or identified but rather something that might be EMBRACED by the rest fraction of the “homogeneous melt of consciousness...”
Yes, embraced on all levels, including the subconscious.
"...The “embraceable” is like feeding a Cat. She eats whatever she want but what she wants is defined but the naturally of her experiences. She does not understand rational but she knows how to correlate chewing with pressure. The very same is with music..."
When things are good (mind clear, etc), actively listening to music, giving my attention to music and nothing else, will result in a mental voyage through space and time that is every bit as engaging as the best film. These voyages are entirely improvised, no thinking involved, just reactions to my interpretation of the music. I'm curious, does this happen to others?
"...One of my ideas of “audio listening techniques” implies a familiarity with the price up to the point of re-composition of the program..."
Ever wake from sleep completely convinced that you've composed the beginning of a great piece of music? Capturing it later on the keyboard will in my case usually reveal its origin.
jd*
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