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In the Forum: Playback Listening
In the Thread: Accuracy vs. Musicality (and YMMV)
Post Subject: The psyche evolution...Posted by Romy the Cat on: 1/13/2026
 N-set wrote:

You have reached some very interesting point, milord. Subtraction rather than addition is what mystics of various traditions kept repeating throughout the centuries. I presume most here are familiar with Huxley's "Perennial philosophy", which is a great organizing principle of those various traditions. I'm wondering if you reached that point by an intellectual work or through numerous enough "those moments"? I remember you describing "those moments" very well, where you feel expanding beyond your own borders and re-evaluating your relationship with the Universe. 
BTW, Bach does not give me those moments. Throw stones on me, but too intellectual for me. And since my work is 100% intellectual probably I need a different "take off platform". Haendel, Vivaldi can. Or, since we are there too, reading great minds on quantum mechanics. I recommend the last of them - David Bohm. You might like his differences of similarities and similarities of differences. 
I am very glad that you picked on the “Subtraction” concept. It is very not accidentally here, and you are very right: the linage of subtraction is well trained with starting from Zen Buddhism and over the thinking of the more interesting to me philosophers, not to mention the contemporary quantum theories. Yes, the relationship with the Universe, the relationship with own consciousness and relation of a person’s consciousness   with collective consciousness. All of it and much more has been encoded in that music. The key is to stop perceive it as “music”, no matter how convincing and comfortable it is but rather look at some of Back’s works as a humanity exercise… I never described at my site “those moments” and I do not think that the value of the moments could be understood from listening music. I think the understanding of the “value” has no definition in music or audio. They are the general properties of a person’s psyche and Music, not to mention audio, are just sonic evidence of a psyche existence. Now, can the music/audio provide loop back to psyche? Yes, it can, can it provide very specific and very structured feedback. Yes, it very much can. This is what I call “shamanic ceremony” when some aspects of psyche and sound in the room are enforced to assure more prolific psyche evolution.

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