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In the Thread: Magico Mini or Jonathan Valin maxi?
Post Subject: Re: Jonathan Valin's strip show?Posted by Romy the Cat on: 8/4/2006

Well, after all I was pointed out to the place where the annoyed wonna-be-Magico-owners came from:

http://forums.avguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=349&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

Nothing new, I well accustomed to the satiations when proud SACD listeners, among the forest of their Revels, Wadias, Kaharmas and  heavy-duty tweaked cable-elevators, exposed to me and they developed a sense of disbelieve that some one might discharge their entire 30-years of listening experience. Ironically it is very much not about equipment but about people. Yes people, as I have very low tolerance when generally all around “survivable” people turned themselves into the freaking zombies as soon then touch audio subjects. One of those freaks proposed: “It does not get any better than TAS, except for the next issue of TAS.” I wonder what this person would do in audio if TAS would not exist, invent for himself another TAS?

That crowd is not really my cap of tea and the quality of the topics observation is not what I would feel interesting to present my point but there was in there something that I feel need to address. Jonathan Valin, the author of the review that encouraged me to write the initial post, comes with his post trying to mis-present the facts and suggesting that am an ignorant brat who have no familiarity to the subject.

  Jonathan Valin wrote:
Thank you, Sacduser and WSlam (and Wayne)—again.

As for Romy's “literary” style. I think he's a little closer to Lucia Joyce than to James. Either that or he learned English by listening to Yoda in Star Wars. Imagine going from Goebbels to Mousses [sic] in a few psychotic paragraphs. (You're giving him far too much credit, BTW, by assuming his misspellings and solecisms are intentional. Heck, he's a software designer—or claims to be—so ipso facto he can't write or speak English. Did you ever read a manual written by a software engineer?)

I've found out through others that this guy has launched ad hom attacks on virtually every audio critic going, and there doesn't seem to be any point in legitimizing this lunacy by responding to him point by vicious, lying, slanderous point. So I won't, though I have to admit that his likening of me to Dr. Josef Goebbels was especially ugly, considering that my great-grandfather and great-uncle died in a Nazi concentration camp.

BTW, Alon Wolf, who has also been a persistent victim of Romy's rampages since Robert wrote his review of the Ultimates, assured me by e-mail that "Romy has never even heard the MINIs. I know who he is and he was never in my room at the last CES. NEVER!!" How that's for gall on our boy's part?

I understand that he would lie to discredit my view. Ironically he did not address the specific facts in my post as faulty but he trying to hit my personally, talking about the ad hoinum… thanks God that he did not saddest to his audiences that they should disregard me because I sponsor with my money the Osama Bin Lanen, as some of his dirties colleges did in past. Anyhow, here are my comments to close up this Jonathan’s ship saga.

  Jonathan Valin wrote:
As for Romy's “literary” style. I think he's a little closer to Lucia Joyce than to James. Either that or he learned English by listening to Yoda in Star Wars. Imagine going from Goebbels to Mousses [sic] in a few psychotic paragraphs. (You're giving him far too much credit, BTW, by assuming his misspellings and solecisms are intentional. Heck, he's a software designer—or claims to be—so ipso facto he can't write or speak English. Did you ever read a manual written by a software engineer?)

I find it is very-very laughable. Each single time, across an entire internet, when a Moron comes across the point that he has nothing to say on the actual subject they begin to attack my epistolary techniques. “What the hell this freak can know bout Sound if he can not spell well!” It is practically fanny to hear it from the read-necks who have broken English as the only language they can manage! It is partially fanny to hear form the nation who selected the retarget psycho as their president. Anyhow, if you Mr. America Reviewer willing to demonstrate snobbism about English language or about literacy then do not be annoyed by me but take care about your kids. I taught then 8 semesters in your college and I can testify that their generation are linguistic idiots. I wonder if they learned form their parents…. 

  Jonathan Valin wrote:
I've found out through others that this guy has launched ad hom attacks on virtually every audio critic going, and there doesn't seem to be any point in legitimizing this lunacy by responding to him point by vicious, lying, slanderous point.

Was it my buddy Miky the Framer:

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/TreeItem.aspx?postID=1957

He, I remember also was running like wonder in the ass antelope, screaming that I heaver heard or familiar with the Continuum turntable…


  Jonathan Valin wrote:
So I won't, though I have to admit that his likening of me to Dr. Josef Goebbels was especially ugly, considering that my great-grandfather and great-uncle died in a Nazi concentration camp.

Well, if you are insulted with somebody correlate your method with Goebbels then do not use them. In fact in Nazi propaganda manuals there was a number of the very specific interactions how to deploy and to spared disinformation and in your article (at least the part that I managed to red) you literally followed them. If you feel that your memory of your great-grandfather and great-uncle  unsalted by somebody see in your marketing efforts the  Goebbels schooling then do not behave like one.

  Jonathan Valin wrote:
BTW, Alon Wolf, who has also been a persistent victim of Romy's rampages since Robert wrote his review of the Ultimates,

Hm, I do not feel that Alon Wolf is a victim of my rampages but I feel that audio public is victim of your glorification of the Alon Wolf efforts; it was the same with Kharma and with few other things. Alon Wolf has nothing to do with it: he cleverly recognized the desire of sonic primitivism and simplicity that you and your colleges injected into public awareness and pluged this gap with a product that addresses those demands. I sincerely wish him to make a lot of money on what he does but his marketing success has nothing to do with real quality of sound. In fact I have my reasons to believe that he sincerely does the best that he understand but the question how much he understand? He is in a way also a product of your “simplicity exaltation”. Yes, sometimes stadiums runners are so far behind that they feel that they are leading…

  Jonathan Valin wrote:
  assured me by e-mail that "Romy has never even heard the MINIs. I know who he is and he was never in my room at the last CES. NEVER!!"

Hm, another “never heard” comment. I did mention my both visit to Alon Wolf room six month ago in:

CES 2005 and CES 2006

The last show I did not even make any attempts to listen Alon’s monitor because it was imposable to approach the Alon room when the system was playing: it was literally painful. The Magico Mini monists have very little handling power and their bass drivers into very severe distortions (like the Kharma’s) when listing lever is louder then rabbit whispering. Alon drove their monitors at CES at outrages volume level and I was literally running ways as my hearing is very sensitive to BAD sound. In addition the Magico are very sharp musically with no lower midrange support for this hyper-resolution pitching HF. This all created a situation like a very young and badly trained mezzo-soprano who sung only in cheap operettas is trying to sing a complex dramatic opera…. good lick with this! I can give you a perfect association how the Magico Mini sounds. In the movie “The War of the Wards” there is moment when Tom Cruse running in his car with his chandler form the tripods and the little girls is screaming on the back sit. That scream is the exact replica of the Magico Mini sound.

Also, when the Alon get his memory back about the last CES then he might recall whom he invited to listen his 5 channels horn installation. BYW, Alon behaved very hospitable this year and I did mention in my post about CES 2006 that I appreciated hi attitude this year. Now, who lies that he “assured you by e-mail”? Was it Alon or the Josef Goebbels’ techniques do not let to shut a fuck up?

Well, surely I would not say anything about the speakers if the only sound I heard was the shows. A few months ago, I was wondering how much the new Görlich production with titanium foil sound different compare to the original Görlich with aluminum foil. I spent a substantial amount of time with Magico in a very well controlled environment with serious-enough electronics. The result was very self-evident in order do not have any ambiguity. I very well understand what you like about those monitors and what Alon was trying to accomplish. However, I’m very CONSCIOUSLY AGAINST of this Sound and AGAINST THOSE OBJECTIVES and reference points that made Alon to make this sound, you to worshipping this sound and the listeners to buy into this sound.

  Jonathan Valin wrote:
  How that's for gall on our boy's part?

Yes, what you have written is just the sad doodles for the galls and boys.

Rgs,
Romy the Cat

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