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Post Subject: They are Apples and OrangesPosted by Romy the Cat on: 8/20/2023
This whole subject of acoustical reconstruction of performing whole by using reverberation channels is very complicated to discuss on audio forums. If visin many aspects of sound reproduction, better or worse, but we have constructed some common denominators of understanding and by using them we can somehow to communicate but in reverberation reconstruction there is absolutely no language mutual understood. The only criteria might be a practice of giving individual and the results that he achieved and his result cannot be conveyed to another person, there is just no mutual understanding.
About Bill's and my result from a prospective of reverberation injection. I use Yamaha DSP algorithm. It is very intelligent algorithm made by the company which has immense advancement in the area. However, it is mass market implementation even in thier high-end units. Just think about it they take analog signal converted to digital, do processing, and then convert to analog again. Considering that they put this feature in on receivers which cost couple hundred bucks it is very reasonable to presume that cost of entire yamaka reverberation injection is probably a few dollars. I am not familiar of high-end implementation of the feature, and it is despite of the fact that I own cheapest and the most expensive processors, they all sounds the same from reverberation standpoint.
Bill, went other way at frankly speaking after many conversations with him I still do not know what he's doing. In my view he does not inject reverberation but rather using multiple speakers and delays he expand the size of the listening room. Him and me have slightly different results from reverberation injection. I would say that his results is much cleaner and has less negative acoustic feedback to the main speakers. It would be very interesting to combine my man's speakers with his reverberation paradigm. Elso, I feel that we listen slightly different things. It is not literally but sort of obstructive... Bill is listening that concert hall with instruments in them, browser I listening instruments in concert hall. Of course it has nothing to do with music and I am talking only about strictly audio listening preferences. I am not convincingly convinced which approach is more advantageous his or mine and this division of approaches is not like black and white, but rather slight tendencies...
Again, it is very very difficult to talk about the subject as people generally have no frame of references what the conversation is all about. Even when Bill and I talked about it I think we have a lot of confusion because we are comparing results of two different systems. Neither I or him have experience to examine absolutely the same play back with his architecture of reverberation injection versus mine. Not to mention that he's and my architecture both supposed to be properly implemented. Bill this he's mysterious digital device probably as close as possible to properly implemented his architecture. I am with my cheap Yamaha implementation very far away from claims that it is how it should be. To the best of my knowledge no one company with high-end objective or at least professional objective do it. I am planning sometimes in the future to try pro audio convolution processors which should be way more superior of any algorithmic processors but I have feelings that quality of ag and ga in those units not going to be good. Well there was one outrageously expensive Sony unit years back when you load a CD with acoustic environment of specific listening call and Sony unit date application or necessary acoustical algorithm to processor. I never seen this unit and I do not know how seriously it was implemented.
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