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Post Subject: The focus of recreating the accidental successPosted by Edgar= on: 10/26/2022
Hy Paul, I agree with your comment about the tone of the passive radiator if it runs to the mid range. This is the point of the SS8565. the combo of the crazy stiff cone and the special surround works phenomenally well to stay linear. It is even better when it is not driven! It does not add any tone, none at all and that is the point. It just rides the tannoy to bring the Fs way down without fu..... sh.. up. The bonus is it allows a tiny box. These tannoys, well maybe the 15 mostly, were designed to be loaded by huge rear horns which would pull the Fs way down. If you just load one with a few cubic feet box and listen is it not how the designers meant it to be, i believe. I'm not one to use passive radiators historically but had the drivers on hand to try Romys kinky config, So I did. The SS pulls the tannoy Fs way down and you get a really fun bottom octave in a few cubic ft. If you have a wife, Dunnoy will make her happy and you will have sex again.
Regarding blending a passive radiator do you mean up or down? I learnt how easy it is to blend it up by literally slapping it in a box with the tannoy. using the 8565 that is. Blending down well thats proving pretty difficult. It doesnt have to be a tannoy btw. try loading any good vintage wide band driver with the SS8565 in a tiny box. And i suppose it doesn't have to be the SS865 but i dont know of other woofers that offer the phenominal stiffness of the cone and the transparency of that suspension. It is a pretty unique driver. i would be keen to learn of a more economical solution because buying them from australia to just run passively is unfair expensive.
I never though of the difference in the smaller tannoys to the bigger as a differenece in jump from the cone fundamentals. I like that distinction. I only know the 10 and the 15 and they sure do sound different
Its not hard to recreate the magic with this set up. If you really want to critique the assertion that the combo of the tannoy and the scanspeak is worthy or not, do this -
1. organise yorself a vintage tannoy. not new HPD crap but proper alnico accordian surround vintage tannoy. red obviously is better but gold will do in my opinion if you want to see Dunnoys hot legs. (It is the coherence in the xover region of the vintage tannoys creating very wide coherent bandwidthe, combined with the speed and softness of the alnico motor and the sound of the cone and voice coil that excels IMO. Not many drivers or combination of drivers get all that right so readily. Vintage tannoy makes things easy in that it handles 8 octaves for you in a very linear and coherent fashion. linear in not just frequency but dynamically. The SS8565 give you another octave on the bottom for free)
2. Listen to your tannoy and make sure it is not injured. self explanatory really. Get another one if it is not perfecto
3. Organise yourself a SS8565 and marry it to your not injured vintage not HPD or any other new crap tannoy, in a way smaller than what your rational mind tells you box.
4. listen and fix your box if it is crap.
5. organise yourself reverb injection and forget all your room woes (and most of your other audio woes too for that matter)
6. take the day off
If you deviate from the above I cant guarantee you will meet Dunnoy...
BTW Paul, I dont think anyone disagrees about the headroom. In fact i think the focus might be not only how to recreate the magic but also get more headroom no?
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