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In the Forum: Horn-Loaded Speakers
In the Thread: New superlative horn build - ESD acoustic
Post Subject: Sorry, no cigars…Posted by Romy the Cat on: 5/15/2018
 martinshorn wrote:
And far ahead of the Vox Olympian. Thats the big surprise. 
Josh, I just want to make an attempt to methodologically debug your thought proses. You found that ESD is far ahead of the Vox Olympian. It means there are specific aspect of sound with Olympian that less stimulate you then with ESD. So, my question is: what you heard the Olympian in past where you able to identify for yourself these less stimulating aspects of sound or you discovered then only with ESD or Klaus?


 martinshorn wrote:
Romy. I know the situation there was no good, reg. the room. But when i enter in a silent moment, clear my throat, talk, clap hands, look around....I kind of get a feeling how the room responses. You know what i mean?  
Nope, in this case I am not with you. I do presume that you “heard” the room and was able to factor the room into your judgments. Sorry, but the sound of the room in this case is irrelevant as the concern is not about room/listener interaction but rather room/speakers interaction. Topologically that room and that configuration should convert the bass horns into sonic torture devises. It is not because I said so, it is absolutely inevitable. You discussed how multilayered sound was but to have a multi-way squished to the back wall like this must made sound very flat and very boring, particular with longish horns. It is not my fantasies, this fact, I am sorry to disappoint you. I do not know what is in play in your liking the sound of ESD so much. I am very far from making any judgment about sound by video but the video above was shot from about right spot. If you look the sonic distortion the video has with other system then you get an idea. The sound of ESD is beyond horrible but the irony is that it is horrible in the very same direction how I predict it should be: the sound of the overdriven exponential horns. The Bruce ides to modulate the horns rate depends of the channel was very good. But I think in the case of ESD the greed killed them. The horn people juts do not know where to stop and they drive the horns MUCH further lower then they can handle. If the ESD folks stopped at 70Hz and 150Hz then they would have a nice setup but they went for 100Hz and 20Hz, effectively killing own systems. I am very convinced that Bruce would not go for it but here is where the famous “steepness and variable: crossover point in the hands of the people who not completely know what they doing played a role… Very unfortunate…
 

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