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In the Thread: A listening room for a domesticated Cat?
Post Subject: Some thinking required…Posted by Romy the Cat on: 10/23/2017
Yesterday I finalized everything, made the crossovers permanent, arranged the cables, check the phases and levels per each channel and officially declared to my wide that the listening room setting up is over. Then as the kids went to bed I decided to spin some music in a comfort of my new re-acquired listening room. I put the scherzo from Mahler Second, tuned the light off, stretched in my chair and pushed play. Instead the customary timpani strike opening the Macondo barked to me with some horsey fart. That was more than unpleasant. 
 
I took my own “test tracks” the recordings that I know for years very well and that I use the debug playbacks. Played it and it was very obvious that the playback was very seriously sick. The sound has very undecided lover end and overall super brittle it was almost like waking barefoot over crash glass. The setting the tweeters lower did not help, so it was obvious that something in my LF was out of phase. It is not very much publicized fact in audio that there is a lot of conception between upper HF and lower LF. I wrote about it a lot in past at my site. So, in this case when the whole upper end was brittle like very rusty knife and lower bass was as ugly as it usually come from open baffle I instantly recognized that one of my LF section is out of phase.
There was however two dilemmas. I just checked all my individual channels and made sure that they are in proper phase. Also just a few days back, even last morning I had great sound with no signs of upper range harshness of bass problems. The environmental problem are out of picture, so what is going on? 
 
I do not have a definitive answer yet even though I was thinking about it whole evening and whole morning today. The most likely is that my playback proper configuration is what LF channels need to be set that right LF side runs in opposite polarity then left LF. Most likely it is what I had before my last setting up. You see, I can’t check the polarity of my left LF and it runs 20Hz filtration and I have no gain to excite my phase miter.  I did not bring scope to test it but rather I set with RTA each side LF in max gains to Midbass and Upperbass in max gain to Upprabss.  Since the Midbass and Upperbass are in phase with R and L side I was under presumption that LF will be in phase if they in max gain to own Midbass. So apparently, and probably because they have deferent filtration my R and L LF channels runs max gain to midbass in opposite phases to each other. This is the only explanation I have.
If it is so then it will be VERY strange configuration with R-LF and L-LR to be in opposite phase. Sure, they are in very different acoustic environments and runs different crossovers (20Hz and 45Hz second order), they run different impedance change. So there are a lot of explanation why to be in opposite phase would be reasonable. Still it would be strange and unusual.

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