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In the Thread: Ultimate Turntable
Post Subject: Looks that way...Posted by dkarmeli on: 5/7/2014
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 rowuk wrote:
 Going in circles is bad for your health. Just like every other thread on expensive gear, the name calling starts where the good reason stops.

Regardless of how we calculate, 100K is artificial because there are people willing to pay it. It has NOTHING to do with superior or new technology. There is no reason for a turntable to cost as much as a Ferrari or Porsche. Those cars weigh more, have more engineering, horsepower and cost of construction and definitely can't be called "shit".

So maybe now that we have put the price into perspective, why not finally try to figure out what makes this thing supposedly so hot........

I found this for 25 grand (Euros). 
http://www.tw-acustic.de/de/laufwerke/raven-black-night

Seems to be a great deal. Even has a battery for the 3 motors to eliminate those contaminated electrons. It will hold 4 tonearms and got some great reviews here in Germany. I know that the guy from Cessaro uses it.

You'd think that by now there should be plenty of super duper tables out there for a very reasonable sum, but that's not the case. The Raven is a good table but still in USD, it costs quite a bit and sonically just on a par with a 30 year old RX-5000. Everything looks easy and simple specially something like a tt that's been around forever and its relatively low tech, until you try to take it to the next level. A simple thing like a spring has been around for centuries, the next logical step was to improve its long term reliability but nobody did. I have two patents on a simple, stupid spring. I sold the usage rights to one of the largest manufacturers in the US with full disclosure. There's no technology here, just basic tooling and yet couldn't it reproduce it properly. If something is special and beyond other competitors then there's something more than meets the eye.
david

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