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In the Forum: Playback Listening
In the Thread: Audio vs. Musical pitch

Post Subject: Some midweek morning stimulation…Posted by Romy the Cat on: 5/1/2013

noviygera wrote:
… if we reduce our concept of "music" the more fundamental concept of "sound" as point of reference than we can easier visualize of what audio system should do. …. … this is not possible would be to take the "sound" as a point of reference rather than a musical recording.

Noviygera, yes, I understand what you are saying and I disagree with you. The reason why I degree with you is because you made a conceptually-metrological mistake in your modeling of the situation, or your model juts doe not reflect the reality. If we presume that we deal with "sound" as point of reference, the point that is abstracted from music then I do agree with you that it has very little usability. The mistake you make is that the abstract sound that you are talking about does not come alone but it comes bound with listener perception. It is not just the abstract sound but a duplex of abstract sound and the objective consequences that this abstract sound has to sound consumer. If we look into it as combination-only then musicality of recording become not the mandatory moderating force but complementary force, surly the complementary force that bring a whole new meaning to the process of listening. Nevertheless this also allows to use the abstract sound (and I spoke about it a lot in past) as mandatory gate-keeping entity that might or might not benefit the musicality of recording or life performance. I can give a lot of illustrations of the said….

rowuk wrote:
Major chords create sidebands that are harmonically related to the chord - there is little dissonance. Minor chords create sidebands that are NOT harmonically related.

H, I did not know it. That is VERY interesting, I need to think about it. Very, very interesting!!!

rowuk wrote:
On a side note, I teach trumpet and "weak" players often "sound" sharp - even if a tuning device "proves" that their tone is centered at the correct pitch.

Excellent illustration of my original point! I wonder if you detected any differences in perception when your student sounds “fictitiously sharp” in major chords vs. minor chords?

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