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In the Thread: It’s mad, mad, mad... electricity.
Post Subject: Torus RM20Posted by Romy the Cat on: 12/15/2011
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 Canuck wrote:
Romy        Have you ever tried a PUREPOWER device feeding something like the Torus RM20 which  has a huge transformer and then out to the components? The Torus stores a lot of energy in those huge transformers. Do you feel this would have any merit?
   Also, what about skipping all that and using something like a highend honda inverter generator( can even use remote startup). In your opinion would something like this work ?

Canuck, I did not use automobile inverter, so I can’t comment on them.

Regarding the Torus RM20. The idea to use a good quality isolation transformer after the PurePower generator is VERY lucrative.  Since I was unsuccessful to use multiple PurePowers the idea to isolate let say digital from analog is very promising. Unfortunately I personally was not victorious to use the isolation transformers that I tried, I have 4-5 very good quality isolation transformers, including one 3kW very high quality one very similar or even better to what to what  Torus and others use. The PurePower has own unique “sonic crisp” that in my view does not go through my isolation transformers very well. Also, my isolation transformers did killed the PurePower lower bass.

Sing all of it, I do not know if Torus RM20 would do the same as my isolation transformers. I do not know what in fact doing on in the Torus units. The regulation that they use is not necessary after PP2000. They claim those Torus lower distortions and restore waveform and the claim they do it without any resonators. I do not know how it might be done without resonators or with active circuit. It is possible that they BS about the restoration of waveform. I do not know.

In the end of the day I would try the Torus RM20 devise, try it instead of the PP2000, before and after PP2000. Still, I would demand very clear explanation of the operation principle of this unit. They claim:

“Torus Power’s simple, advanced but elegant solution resolves incoming power quality problems by harnessing the transformers combined inherent inductance, capacitances, and resistance characteristics to act as a filter, thus exceptionally high levels of attenuation are attained with absolutely no reliance on any external components. Through the elimination of filters, series inductors, shunt capacitors, or other passive reactive devices commonly required in the power circuit, Torus products start with a noise floor at the theoretically lowest level.”

So, it is possible to use internal leakage induction and cross-turn capacitance to form filter but it would be no where enough to set the filtration resonance. Do all that they can do it to set very small filters but it would do nowhere near what might be called “restoration”.  The reality is that core of the transformer itself is very good filter and hardly pass anything more than 200Hz. They need to learn the difference between “filtration” and “restoration”. Restoration implied an active circuit and I do not think that Torus has it.

Saying all of it I think it would be worth to try Torus. Try as anything else.

The Cat

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