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In the Forum: Melquiades Amplifier
In the Thread: A different breed of 6C33C amplifier.
Post Subject: Dac output stage.Posted by KOTriode on: 10/26/2011
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 Romy the Cat wrote:

From what you describe I can conclude that your DAC is not good. You said you use DIY wireless DAC with tube output. I do not know what wireless mean in this context, but it is not important. I also know do not like any tube output stage in DACs, I have written about it extensively. Anyhow, my rational to blame your DAC is following: the sonic changes you describe shall not take place if your DAC is able to drive your power amp properly. It is not only about output impedance. Something in that DAC’s out stage does not work properly as a good preamp much not make a difference as you witnessed. With very good preamp you might have a little better dynamics and slightly better bass but it shall be all. If you witnessed so dramatic soundstage change, change in detail and speed and higher extension of HF then you are just way beyond of definition of preamp transparency. Are you sure that what you observe was not change in cables or something like this?

As I said above, if I got the result you did then I would revise what my front end outputs. Find another DAC, of phonostage of CD player with DC-coupled SS output stage, it shall not be any good devise but any consumer unit would do. Do the same experiment with insertion of your preamp. You most like will not has the same difference.

Rgs, The Cat

I was not satisfied with commercially available DAC output stage neither, so I built something a little bit different.
The output stage of my DAC is direct coupled to a gain stage, again directly coupled to a cathode follower using an KT66 tube and capacitor coupled to the output. It is not normal to have an KT66 output tube as the DAC final stage, but I like it sonically this way compare to a number of other tubes that I tried. This DAC output impedance while not as low impedance as the 6C33C, is pretty low (about 200 ohms) and can drive about the same mount of current as the 6C33C preamp, and there is only 5 feet of cables to drive to the amp, so I was pretty puzzled by the sonic result when inserting the 6C33C preamp in the chain.

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