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In the Thread: Basic guide to advanced audio
Post Subject: How black is the blackPosted by haralanov on: 7/25/2011
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Jorge, good post, but I think you have made generalization:
 Jorge wrote:
A completely flat system sounds horrible
My comment may look too simplistic, but it is not. The frequency response is not self contained entity, because it shows the energy balance of the Sound. So you can have flat energy balance of good Sound and you can have flat energy balance of bad sound. In both cases the sound is different, but the energy balance is the same - paradox? That is important. On the other hand, if you have irregularities of the frequency response (the so called peaks/dips) they put their own accents in the sound, so they give fake intonation when reproducing some of the notes, which destroys the original musical interpretation to some degree. So they modify the performer’s intentions in their own way. The algorithm of modifying is always the same (for a given system), no matter what the recording is. It is the same as adding sugar to everything you eat, even when you go to a fine restaurant – when you add sugar to your meal, there is no way to understand how the cooker wanted this meal to taste, so you can not understand his original intentions. It is directly related to the transparency of the original musical messages - just how unaffected you (OK, not you, but your system) can reproduce (recreate) them.
 
 Jorge wrote:
tweeters don’t need to call the attention of your ear, tweeters need to disappear and form part of the instrument midrange,  they need to fill in the response of the instrument at the higher levels where the midrange driver cannot go,  but don’t ever be present,  this will kill the reality feeling and destroy the sphere like soundstage.
 
The sound shall be of an extended midrange without the crisp highs and the ever present lows. 
It is certainly very very important, but how many systems you have listened where you can not be able to recognize the HFs as disconnected part of the sound? I just wanted to ask if you have ever heard a system, where the sound of the tweeter is COMPLETELY part of the midrange. I know there are a lot of people who insist they integrated their tweeters perfectly, but when I visit those people, I can always identify the sound of their tweeters. When we talk of channel integration, we must be able to identify the axis where the sound comes from without hearing any parasitic sounds coming from over or under that axis. Most of the systems I have heard have their sound fixed at the tweeter axis. Yes, they sound integrated, you can even listen them at 1m away without hearing any integration artifacts, but they do not sound like seamless extended midrange - they rather sound like seamless extended HFs. Everything have taste of high frequencies, even when the level of the tweeter is not set to be higher that necessary. One of the most difficult things in audio (actually it is the most difficult of all) is to make the sound to come from the midrange channel axis, which have to "pull" the sound of the tweeter and to mix it perfectly within itself. It may take a lifetime to do this right, and sometimes lifetime is not enough… But once it is done right, most of the psychoacoustic barriers get crashed, so there is no bridge between you and the music, and the music content of the recordings injects directly in your mind, so directly, that you totally forget who you are and your mind becomes just part of the music and you even begin to feel you are composer of the reproduced music.
 
Best regards,
Haralanov

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