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In the Thread: Initial thoughts about new/old Lamm ML2s
Post Subject: Are they that bad (well, sort of)?Posted by Lx_ on: 12/7/2009
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
Anyhow, the problem is not with Ken Chait or Lamm owners but in the totally foolish expectations that 6C33C might be matched. Well, if you do burn the 6C33C for 50-60hours and do match it by gain, by bias and by currant then you have MORE chance then the tube will age similarly but it will NOT be an assurance. Do you know how many tubes I would need to go over to match the paid of 6C33C properly? I would say 20 tubes. So, I feel that the best solution would be juts to buy a shit-loaded of cheap 6C33C. Match them by gain and discard bias. That is fixed bias, what would be the difference is you get you default current with 70V or grid or 80V.

What I do is to use a pair of new tubes, match them by gain, check the gain each few month and in one year I trash both tubs if the tubes did not develop any other “problematic” signs earlier.

The Cat

Well that is interesting. I knew from other posts of yours in various threads on this site that the characteristics of the 6C33C vary a lot from on to the other and that you cannot expect that any given pair will be identical enough to be used as is as V2 tubes. I also remember that you said matching them by gain is enough (I assume that is because plate voltage and current can be adjusted). But learning that they may also age quite differently is another matter, and not quite reassuring.

If that's the case, I must be lucky because I don't hear that my two amps have different gain. They are surely not equal, but for practical purposes they seem so to me (probably within 0.5dB). Of course this is just me and I don't claim to make a statistical rule from a batch of 2.

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