Stitch, I do not know. I did not give too much attention to this new Air Force One TT. It looks to me as it is essentially the Micro 8000 only with 21 century ergonomic. Micros were TT from 70s, look at the appearance of cars from 70s and look at the appearance the cars of today. The bells and whistles that they build up around the platter are very convenient and appealing in my view. They use the same 36kG platter as Micro use; I am sure with the same glass/air suspension. I do not know if they made the stator with the same crazy heavy material as Micro was or they went for heavy brand of aluminum. I also do not know what difference it would make. I am not wild that they use some kind of “resonating” platform instead air. I like air decupling under TT.
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In a way you find all answers in your Article of "Foolishness of analog People" ....
The big Seikis were never common in USA, you and a few others know the old ones and what they can do. The AFO is such a unit made in 2012.In a way it is the first real serious Design Solution I saw in the last 10 years. When someone sees it now the first time and he is not stupid, he will detect sooner or later, that there is something serious done. I can't say how good it performs in reality, because the old 8000II with the Vacuum is inferior to a - additional - dampened Platter 8000. But I can imagine they solved it with a new dampened Platter. Would be logical, that was the only weak point of the 8000II.
I listened multiple times to Continuum Player and imo, there is a lot of brain inside. Unfortunately it is like a race car which needs care and service. I had a few Situations when the Continuum got defect. They need replacement parts what someone in Australia told me. Anyway, they sold more units than I thought. There is a market for expensive Turntables. When they are good sounding AND reliable, well ...
Or let's go to the real world, there are endless high powered cars outside. 99,5% of their owners aren't able to handle them. Even in Germany the majority pushes the pedal only a few times when the highway is empty and straight on. And no one cares, some book driving lessons, but the majority enjoys the simple ownership. That's the way it is ...
I did not know that Continuum might got broken. The notion that 100K TT might be broken is ridicules is me. There is absolutely nothing that TT does that shall send it out of service and if anything does get broken itself then it is solely the design flow. BTW, the very first private demo with Continuum that I attended the TT was not able to martin speed. The Continuum people did not actual hears it and it was VERY laughable. Thos people know or care about music as much as I know about subatomic physics…
The story that is unfolding with post-Seikis in USA is kind of ugly. The Continuum sold more units than you thought because the idiot Framer blew the Continuum horn. Well, ne is not necessary an idiot – his job title to be idiot but the army of brainless audio cretins will blindly follow whatever bone he throw to them and say “fetch”. BTW, the very same story is unfolding now with Air Force One and used to unfold with Micro Seiki.
In begin of 90s I believe someone publish something about Micro Seiki 1500FVG. It was a very good TT and it was hands and shoulders above whatever crap was sold in US in that time. The review neutral but as I was told it was made a deliberate decision to not let heavy Japanese TT to enter the US market. So, the US duckling did not see any large Micros and the ground was set to let light plastic German TT to dominate US marketing.
It look like now the new US distributor run his new TT across the all casual suspects of the US marketing food chain. He stuffs the TT across 3-4 “big names”, trying to solicit them to get aboard. As they do suspect the price go up as those asshole pay shit and somebody need to endure the cost and the destitution/dealer appetite. The result will be as usually is not an objective evaluation of TT but embracing a new spin campaign of the products. For the next 3-5 years the US rep will make good money, buy a boat and in a few years the Air Force One will be demoted if they do not do more “white trash” targeted models. This is not about TT but about the primitive food chain in audio industry. I will not be surprised if even in years it will not be know (publicly) if Air Force One has any sonic advantages or disadvantages over another best TT of the past and none of them were used by the audio pimps.
It was reported to me privately that the Air Force One did fine at CES 2013 but as uselessly it was just a play of a TT and absolutely no one would know how much in that sound was TT vs. anything else. Also, Wilson is not the acoustic system within the context of which one might look at the performance of TT. BUT once again, the show condition is not the place to find sound but an opportunity for manufacturers to suck industry dicks. The case to point:
It is good that the Japanese guy who does Air Force One is not plugged into our “American swallowing” and he might maintain some independence and integrity.Rgs, Romy the Cat
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