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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 51
Post ID: 25690
Reply to: 25688
I hope it is just a hobby....
So, what happens, the Musique Concrete as the company stopped to exist and somebody Marco Henry, who is a new person of the former Musique Concrete will continue the line? That is fine but I think Marco Henry as well as Musique Concrete need to take his efforts as a very different level in order to create any “event” in this industry or to make any significance in the home horn systems. Not that I feel that Mr. Henry “should”. If he smart then he should run away from this business and it is very much not [self]appreciative place to be. I hope Mr. Henry has other calling in his life and his parley to audio busses is his side hobby that he chose to monetize…


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 52
Post ID: 25691
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There is nothing further then this.
 Paul S wrote:
Now as ever in hi-fi there seems to be no economically viable model for developing, producing, marketing and servicing  good sounding equipment. As ever, it remains for the end user to find and develop their own equipment from whatever happens to be available at the time. On the other hand, as ever there are still ways to do this, despite the demise of any given commercial product line. People in this forum seem to forget that horns don't sound better than other topologies but they are simply more efficient than other speakers, which opens the door to certain power options that are not honestly viable with other types of speakers. However, it's not about the topology, and it's not about the thickness of one's wallet, and it's not just about the ears but mainly what's between them. We can't just wait for "manufacturers" to do the job for us, and we certainly can't count on The Public to Support Good Sound. One of the most frustrating things for me has been that even at the level of drivers it seems to be almost entirely random in terms of real world result not just in terms of topology or even one line versus another but also driver to driver, down to individual units. Feh!
Hmmmm, it is interesting subject(s) but in my view your post mixed so many things into one pile. One subject that I would like to address however. No one made a claim that horns sound better than other topologies. In fact, if you look at the number of attempts by topologies then probably horns will be not the winners. It just happened that by virtue me embracing horn topology for my own playback the majority of context at this site is about horns. There is nothing further then this.



"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
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Post #: 53
Post ID: 25692
Reply to: 25691
The Champion
Sure, Romy, that's already obvious from all you've said, at least to some. However, it's also obvious that many still shop and shop and wait and wait for some "manufacturer" to "get it right" and offer to them something they can plug and play, and on this site there also seems to lurk the idea that this will be "the best", not because you sell it like this but because people continue to bring this with them when they get here. How ironic is it that really big speakers that might really deliver might take years to develop and embed in a room that supports them. even something purchased as "plug and play"?


Best regards.
Paul S
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 54
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My will.
 Paul S wrote:
However, it's also obvious that many still shop and shop and wait and wait for some "manufacturer" to "get it right" and offer to them something they can plug and play, and on this site there also seems to lurk the idea that this will be "the best", not because you sell it like this but because people continue to bring this with them when they get here. How ironic is it that really big speakers that might really deliver might take years to develop and embed in a room that supports them. even something purchased as "plug and play"?

Paul, what is not obvious and in my view escapes from many people in audio, including those few who sometimes read my site that I do not care about “many who still shop”. My very fundamental believe is that high-end audio is deeply individualistic and very personal endeavor. To worry about other in audio is the last stupid thing that I care and then people practice high-end audio, particularly public audio as we all do nowadays, with a reference to “others” then it is a direct pathway to either whoreship or to blind nothingness. A serious audio is a deeply personal matter, no different the the techniques we use in a bedroom to bring a person we love to orgasm. I for sure might observe what others, would it be people of manufactures, do in the areas where I have some expertise.  Still, this is a general intention to publicize that “keeping the torch” ceremony but I have no investment of any kind to change dippers over another person’s audio mind. The deep individualistic nature of high-end audio is the greatest conclusion I made for 40 years of practicing audio. If tomorrow I turn dead then it is my wish that what I said above to be my high-end audio legacy.



"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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steverino
Posts 314
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Post #: 55
Post ID: 25696
Reply to: 25691
Happy Thanksgiving everyone
As for Romy's legacy advice let's just say that Audio systems are the interior decorator part of music. 
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 56
Post ID: 25698
Reply to: 25696
Happy Thanksgiving...
Yep, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Saying honestly, to celebrate Thanksgiving outside of US, we are in Mexico now, is kind of strange... I disagree that Audio systems are the interior decorator part of music. I rather think that for a person who cares about high-end audio a playback systems acts as interior decorator of own personality. It might be a negative decoration or positive decoration. It is all depending on how it is being used within a framework of on objectives. It is like a rifle. It's my be used as a murder weapon or it might be a used as a tool of liberation from oppression. A playback system is very much the same. It's my be used as a great mechanical surrogate and the very same system my be used as a tool for introspection, research, reflection and many other objectives. This is why I always use long-term progression of personality as an ultimate assessment mechanism to evaluate the quality of playback.


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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  »  New  Problems with horns: upper bass ..  Must it be about loading?...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     109  932028  03-25-2005
  »  New  Barn Conversion - James' Project..  The vintage vs. contemporary compression driver....  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     28  286897  02-04-2007
  »  New  About bass horns by Johan Dreyer..  There are lowest bass horns and there are not lowest b...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     5  72636  02-11-2008
  »  New  La Grande Castine..  Happy Thanksgiving......  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     55  420160  09-07-2009
  »  New  The most promising “best” commercial speaker..  Cessaro new Loudspeaker...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     191  1384767  12-06-2006
  »  New  European Triode Festival 2009 – good, bad and ugly...  Schröder, Walker and a weekend with Bernie...  Audio Discussions  Forum     10  22420  12-14-2009
  »  New  French Horns/drivers shootout (oops! S2 came last)..  My bad...  Horn-Loaded Speakers Forum     7  52070  12-07-2010
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