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Posted by Amir on
02-26-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d
van den hul maked a full carbon interconnect that it's name is "the first".
Is there any idea about his approach?
It seems in some area carbon can respond good to micro information.
regards
Amir
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Posted by drdna on
02-26-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d  Amir wrote: | | van den hul maked a full carbon interconnect that it's name is "the first". |
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I listened to this cable for a while in my system when it was first produced a number of years ago. It overcomes many of the physical limitations imposed by the use of metallic conductors, although it has its own constraints. It is practical in short runs, and has an excellent price/performance ratio.
The sound is superb. It avoids the characteristic colorations of metallic wire, yielding an extremely neutral presentation with lots of detail.
I started making my own cables and interconnects, so I do not use commercial products any more. However, if I had to use a commercially manufactured product, "the First" would be at the top of my list.
Adrian
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Posted by Amir on
02-26-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d I have "the second" and i'm familiar with limitation if carbon cables but i really think carbon could be a good approach for making good cable.
it seems if we spend time for developing carbon interconnect it can give us good result in a match system.
the most important thing about it is avoiding hardening music texture and keeping it's soul in my idea.
Amir
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Posted by ArmAlex on
05-09-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d Dear drdna, would you please give us some info about your cables, as I'm tired of seeing $10000000000000 cables which in fact the cost of material is $0.00000000001!
Armen
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Posted by ArmAlex on
05-11-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d Dear Drdna, I red with interest about your experience in cables would you please give us more info. As I 'm sure many audiophiles are tired of spending $10000000000
for cables which actual material cost are $0.00000000000001!
Armen
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Posted by Romy the Cat on
05-11-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d
Armen, your notion that pricy cables might cost nothing and that it is a bad thing is absolutely bogus in my view. I do not have need to argue this point but I think you might view into the subject deeper. Higher cost is paid for assurance to have off a shelf guaranteed result of targeted demand. The actual cost of a product is irrelevant, not to mention how much it cost to manufacture the thing.
I hope people who read/post at this site understand the difference between a “product” as an industry item and a “solution” as satisfaction of demands. Sure, it is good to make you own cables but if your objectives are just to pay less then you do it for wrong reasons. There is tone of cheeps cables out there that cost virtually nothing… If you do have specific objective in cables (something that I do not think you do) then good luck to meet them with you custom cables. Do not forget to multiply the amount of hours you will invest into your Cable Projects to you normal billable rate and you will have an idea how much your new cable cost you.
The Cat
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Posted by ArmAlex on
05-16-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d Dear Romy, You got me wrong I perfectly know that value of many things are not the sum of materials which they are made of, otherwise you could buy Mona Lisa for
couple of bucks. The point I tried to say is usually cable manufacturers-and others in audio industry-generally charge too high for their products.
Regarding low priced cables, low price is a guarantee for low quality but I think you would agree high price isn't a guarantee for good sound either.
My objective is not low price of course but at the same time I'm not willing to pay $5000 for an interconnect.
And regarding the time one must spend to make a cable, we already spend a lot of time to listen to good sound just use the formula you suggested for calculating cable price for
the time you-and whoever cares for good sound-to speaker placement alone.
Armen
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Posted by ArmAlex on
05-16-2009
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fiogf49gjkf0d Dear Romy, What is your opinion about silver cables drdna suggested (http://www.laventure.net/tourist/cables.htm)
Armen
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